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  • What Radio sustem in the Future

    OK so as per the title. Which radio system do you think will offer the most to the Heli community and flyer in general?

    Futaba's S-Bus looks very promising but has not got model match.

    JR/Spectrum are headed off in the DSMX direction with different approaches to the signal but no real update in the technology apart from the number of simultaneous models in the air

    Theirs been a bit of debate surrounding quality issues lately but lets try and leave that out of your decision please. I would like to know what technology solution you think offers the most potential assuming they can manufacture to a decent standard.
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  • #2
    Futaba has the best technology and the most reliable link. Their free upgrades are set to continue, bringing telemetry to existing sets. Sbus is years ahead already.

    Their downfalls are

    a: Expense
    b: Customer Service
    c: Some ugly sets

    You expect to pay more for higher quality but I'm not yet convinced they have the pricing right, customer service tends to be hit and miss, many people don't like the ergonomics of the lower end TX

    Spektrum will continue to lead the market unless they make another DX8 cockup.

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    • #3
      What about Jeti?
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      • #4
        i think spectrum or jr have just got the edhe at the moment ,i suppose if i had to pick it would be spectrum because of model match and price ,but i do like the look of the jr 11 zero

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        • #5
          How can you possibly say that with all problems with Spektrum at the moment, that they are not relevant? Personally I've enjoyed the spektrum brand for the past 4 years, but just lately they seem to be going down the wrong path of software features and price over functionality. I've just switched to Futaba, so I'll hold off on commenting until I've used it for a while

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          • #6
            For me it's Futaba as they seem to have the best technology at the moment, SBUS is really nice and makes the installs really tidy, one addition I would like to see to it is for a redundant connection to the servos, as everything hangs off one connection, the price isn't too bad either when you consider that we spend many hundreds on a heli and then bitch because a Rx costs £10 more and once you get into buying the satellite Rx's for JR / Spektrum then Futaba isn't that expensive.

            Spektrum / JR doesn't do it for me, I don't find model match a compelling enough argument to switch, I'm not keen on the design of the Spektrum and especially JRs new radios and the fact that guys even with the DX7s have to rebind for a random reason has never given me confidence in Spektrum kit.

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            • #7
              Should be multi-choice! Spektrum I would rather stick with as long as they fix and revise they're transmitters (gimbal and pot quality should be the best). Otherwise I guess JR but then I guess I would not be able to use my mCPX and have to change all my RX's.

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              • #8
                I think that 2.4ghz will be phased out in few years time and that we will be using another frequency.

                FPV guys are using 5-8ghz already so possibly this will be integrated into handsets of future once they allow free reign on the band.

                Model match vs a solid and stable link?? Even before the dx8 I have seen loads of models go down due to radio problems. Yet for some reason people jump to the defence of spektrum and say how good the customer service is!!! Eh?????




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                • #9
                  Futaba has always and will always have more money to spend on R and D, as the modelling side is just a small part of thier industry

                  i dont believe that they are more expensive in fact the 617 7channel is cheaper than an AR7000 in most places, and surely model match is not or should not be a substitue for a proper pre flight check which if done correctly will show you are on the correct model anyway
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                  • #10
                    Have to agree with the comments about model match. Sure it's a nice feature, but when your dealing with expensive models I'd rather a safer connection with no model match and just do an extra safety check. As scoobstig says, you should triple checking you have the right model selected anyway. I always select the model, turn the Tx off and back on then check again. I guess you could call it an OCD thing.
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                    • #11
                      I agree with the comments regarding proper preflight and Model match. Something I've always done. Checking everythings ok before you fly and that you have the right model is a must. But its a nice little safety net.

                      Trouble is the service form Horizon has always been second to none and yet Futaba/Ripmax has a terrible reputation and has done for years. So it could be a real gamble next year lol, stick with Spektrum, go with Futaba and hope the set does not go faulty and risk a shocking repair experience or hope JR pull a rabbit out the hat and surprise with a competitive set to go against the 18mz with S.Bus.

                      As much as I like my DX8 (and I do) it was never intended to be a long term replacement for my DSX12. So middle to end of next year I'm wondering what will be around hence the thread

                      In any case I'll still fly as crap as I do no matter what radio I have I will however still be enjoying the hobby
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                      • #12
                        A lot of people are going on about "Model match" yeah a nice feature but it should be part of your "Pre flight checks" TX on select model, and so on. I've used Futaba for years and the only problems i've had was in the 2 years i changed to Graupner MC24, then changed back to Futaba, my old 9ZHP is still working great and it's 10 years old.

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                        • #13
                          Ripmax have always been helpful for me, and there is always Mike Ridely of model radio workshop anyway
                          i will also add that when it did go back to ripmax, it was due to my fault and not a faulty TX and it was back repaired with in 5 days for £28.00
                          where as Horizon were no help to me at all when i needed a new case for an AR9000, the reply i got was we dont keep them, we just wait for a faulty one to arrive and then use the case from it
                          we have run Futaba 9c's at the flying school for years and they are used for 6/8 hours everyday and believe me it takes a while to wear them out, can you imagine our repair bill if we used 6 DX8's
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                          • #14
                            so is the jr DMSS not a new technology ?
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                            • #15
                              It's interesting that the vote is currently 20:7 in favour of Futaba over Spektrum. I wonder if the reesult had been the same 6 months or so ago, before all the recent Spektrum problems?

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