DSX11 - Pitch/Throttle curve points ?

[Bruinbear]

I don't know how many people have a DSX11, but I seam to have run into a bit of a 'hiccup' regarding the pitch/throttle curve points. This radio is suppose to have seven point curves like my old DSX12, but it will only allow me to add three points, giving me five points curves only. Now I know a lot of you will say 'so what' and 'why do you want a seven point curve ?'
Well I just want what I've paid for and it clearly states that the radio has seven point curves ! I've tried selecting Heli and Aero, it's still the same. Maybe there is something else in a menu that I'm missing ?
Has anyone else found this issue ?
HELP !!!
Cheers,
Mike.

[millerman]

dont have one but is there an advanced menu where you can choose the amount of point in the curve ??

[Mark_T]

Where did you see that the DSX11 had 7 point curves?

I'm only seeing 5 points being advertised:

• Throttle Curve: Maximum 5 Systems Multipoint: 3 Intermediate Points (With Exponential Function)
• Pitch Curve: Maximum 6 Systems Multipoint: 3 Intermediate Points (With Exponential Function)
• Tail Curve: 5 Systems Multipoint: 3 Intermediate Points (With Exponential Function)

Edit: Did a bit more digging and the 11X does seem to have 7 point curves, but not the DSX11

[Bruinbear]

Thanks Guys.
I spoke to Fast Lad and they check one in the shop. That only had five point curves.
Maybe you're right Mark and the software differs from the JR 11X. I was going by the manual, but that's generic for the 11X and DSX11.
I tried to call MacGregor, but they are shut Fridays !
It wouldn't surprise me that we've been screwed here in the UK.... Again !
I think some more investigation is required here ???

[chugga-bug]

It wouldn't surprise me that we've been screwed here in the UK.... Again!

Hit the nail on the head there Mike
The yanks get seven, we get five... God knows why

[Bruinbear]

UPDATE !
I've spoken to Steve Roberts at MacGregor and he's told me that this is quite correct for the UK DSX11 and that only the US 11X has seven point curves. He did say that a software update will be available at some point, but couldn't say when.
I'm rather disappointed with this issue, as it was not made clear in the manual or any UK advertising.
Why is it that we always seam to get short changed here in the UK ?
I have now emailed JR Radios to see if they can help.
I'll let you all know when I have any further news.
Thanks MacGregor !
Mike.

[Steve]

My DSX9 has 7 point curves as standard.......

[scallybert]

My DSX9 has 7 point curves as standard.......

So does my DX8...

And you can move them horizontally...

[jeznewsome]

Don't hold your breath with MacG.......having said that with a gov fitted to the throttle do you need more than 5 points

[Mark_T]

So does my DX8...

And you can move them horizontally...

Only by using undocumented features and editing the model files though, right?

[zci_zr]

I have the DSX11, only has 5 point of curves. However I think I may have found a bug of DSX11 software, or may be it is design in this way purposely. The below is the description of the bug:

I have setup throttle stick as switch for timer, which start the count down when I move throttle stick away from lower position. But when I turn on the transmitter with throttle in anywhere but lower position, the transmitter will alarm the warning, warning will go off when I move the throttle back to lower position, however the timer will start count down at same time, and will stop when I move the throttle stick away from lower position, start count down again when I move the throttle stick back to lower position, which totally opposite what it should be. But if I reset timer by press the “CLR” button, every thing will back to normal.

I have E-mailed MacGregor regarding with this issues, but never get reply. I don't know if you guys who owns DSX11 has the same problem.

[Bruinbear]

Thanks Guys, but my point is that it wasn't made clear that the DSX11 has only 5 point curves (UK spec). It's not a problem in use, but I just didn't get what I thought I was paying for. I would have at least expected a suppliment or something included in the paperwork/manual or it stated on MacGregors website.
Regarding the timer. I have mine set up the same way and have just checked it's function, it does what it's suppose to. MacGregor do normally reply, but can a while sometimes.

[scallybert]

Only by using undocumented features and editing the model files though, right?

Well, er, yes - but in my professional (sort of) opinion, those sections of the model files are self-documenting...

It's pretty obvious how they (7 point pitch curves) work, and that it's supposed to work. The on-Tx editing is where they seem to have had a problem.

Now, if I was using 9 point pitch curves, I'd accept that would be pushing it... (IIRC, they didn't work when I tried...)

Also, FWIW, it's also being able to move the X values that's probably the really useful bit.

Also, you can edit the 7-point curves on the Tx but only the lowest 5 points. If it was the middle five, they'd be almost there - but X & Y on all 7 would be best.

[Mark_T]

Well, er, yes - but in my professional (sort of) opinion, those sections of the model files are self-documenting...

I made the point so we are not faced with someone rushing out to buy the DX8 then getting upset when the claimed features are missing

There have been a couple of hints that Spektrum may release an official PC based editor at some point, or at least a viewer for the files.

Have to wait and see I guess.

[scallybert]

I made the point so we are not faced with someone rushing out to buy the DX8 then getting upset when the claimed features are missing

Yes - best we leave that to JR purchasers...

There have been a couple of hints that Spektrum may release an official PC based editor at some point, or at least a viewer for the files.

Surprisingly, the Win CE text editors on my iPAQ don't seem to like these files. If they did, that would be a reasonably tidy way of doing it - for those of us that don't always need a GUI...