JR Radio Equipment from Probuild!!!!!!

[Craig33]

Im seriously after a DSX9 but the recent service i had from probuild more than makes me nervous should i need to send it back for something dubious. Can someone remind me, Horizon only deal with Spektrum dont they? Are Probuild going to be a service outlet for JR gear or are they just going to send it to Macgregor?

[Kwickkwack]

My understanding is they will deal in house, and have direct contact with the factory.
I think you are correct, Horizon only deal with Spectrum

[ivanp]

hopefully this may bring the prices down , its only the price increase that stoped me from geting a dx9

[MacGregor]

After spotting this thread I have contacted JR directly and you can find there response on our website, link below.

MacGregor Industries Support Pages - Probuild and JR Propo

[Kwickkwack]

After spotting this thread I have contacted JR directly and you can find there response on our website, link below.

MacGregor Industries Support Pages - Probuild and JR Propo

As you are obviously interested in the contents of this thread, are you able to comment on the pricing, as already stated many would be happy to purchase the DSX9 myself included if the price was more reasonable

[unwind-protect]

From the webpage:

"It is impossible for Probuild to sell CE approved DSX9 and DSX12, since we only ship them with CE approved and lower power to you (MacGregor Industries). We do not put CE mark labels on them for the other markets.""

Plausible this is partially true, as Probuild mentioned elsewhere about putting the radio through CE certification themselves.

Though if they can do this and still offer it at a lower price, it would put to bed the excuse that the reason the DSX9 is so expensive over here is the cost of the certification process.

[MacGregor]

Rob

Yes I was also disappointed to see that the price increased late last year.

MacGregor's have to order these UK/CE approved sets in advance to catch a production run and could not foresee the down turn in the exchange rates when the last batch came in early this year (lowest £-> Yen price for over 10 years).

Now that the rate is getting better and stocks of DSX9's are getting low another batch is being prepared by JR in Japan and MacGregor's will react to the exchange rate at the time of delivery as we do with all of our products.

So to answer your question yes the price will come down (like many other JR products already have) if the exchange rate holds or gets even better.

[MacGregor]

Neil

Our version of the DSX9 had to be modified with internal shielding as well as having the power turned down to meet the CE regulations which has to be built into the set during manufacturing hence the reason that JR in Japan say that Probuild cannot have a certified version of the DSX9 in 'World standard' form. Clearly we would have purchased this version if it was possible to keep costs and production times down.

[unwind-protect]

Well, transmitters are just bits of silicon and plastic at the end of the day. If the radios need post-manufacture modification to bring them within spec, then it's not beyond the wit of man to do that.

I'm not trying to create argument, just saying that if Probuild have managed the CE certification process themselves, it seems to me there's no need for JR to be involved beyond original equipment manufacture.

[Disc]

Hey for me if they can compete with Mcgregors its not a bad thing after all if Probuild can get them in cheaper and there UK spec there's no issue

it's amazing how much most of the JR stuff priced jumped up but look to europe or america it never jumped in price like it did here... and there still a lot cheaper where here prices doubled or more....

[jamiem]

As mark has just said, as long as it's ce approved and all above board, what does it matter. Probuild will have to warrant these items, and if it helps bring the prices back in to the realms of us mere mortals then all the better.

[SteveH39]

bout time some competition stepped in

[Steve]

Probuild have long been sellers/promoters of JR radio gear and have been pushing JR servos and 35MHz Txs and Rxs for a long time into their core clients - plane flyers. As a customer of Probuild for both YS engines and airframes, and having chatted to both the chaps about such things, I can assure you that their big news here is that they have finally made the jump to promoting and selling 2.4GHz (they have been very reluctant to adopt 2.4GHz until now), not that they have just got a deal to sell JR stuff, 'cos they've had that for years.

[Mark_T]

...not that they have just got a deal to sell JR stuff, 'cos they've had that for years.

That would seem to be in question based on the information given by JR.

They may have found a source elsewhere prepared to sell them JR stuff, but that does not mean they have a deal with JR to sell their stuff in the UK ...

Mr. Sekimoto, JR's Export Manager, who has been investigating the source of Probuild's grey imports, told us:


"I checked our domestic sales and confirmed that we, JR, never sell our products to Probuild directly. We do not know who is selling our products to him."


"We, JR, are doing no direct business with Probuild. Please write it down on your web page that JR has no relation with Probuild and never had a direct business with him."


"You (MacGregor Industries) are only the agent for JR in UK."

[Steve]

I hear what you're saying, but I am suspicious of Macgregor on this issue. There are various quotations including the one from Mr Sekimoto and the pdf file linked on Macgegor's website which all go a long way to supporting Macgregor's stance on this, but what makes me nervous about these articles is the quality of the English and grammar. It's just too good to have been written by a Japanese businessman, who may well be the Export Manager but by far his biggest export contingent will be to USA, so his English language however good is likely to be Americanised, unlike all that I have read on this which is clearly UK.

Not impossible I know, but it just raises suspicions in my mind that these statements could be fabricated.

I have no proof of any of this, and it may well be a complete unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, but it's just the way that I read it.

BTW, I have a Macgregor DSX9 Tx and I love it, but I also deal with Probuild and find them pretty trustworthy and well informed chaps.