DX6i or DX7??

[Bell 206]

As I really want to get to grips with the Phoenix Sim, I have decided to push ahead and buy it along with a new TX (old one no good after all - which makes me a bit tbh, oh well!)

My only question is, if I buy a DX6i TX, will this be suitable in the future for the larger (scale fuselage 50 or maybe even my Kalt 60 size) heli's for just 'normal' flight, minus the acrobatics?? When I say 'normal' I mean, standard cyclic, collective and rudder inputs as a normal heli?? Also what category of 'flyer' does that put me in, in the RC heirarchy and what is 3D flight please??

[Boggy]

3d is all the flippy floppy spinny around nonsense that the guys with big cahoonas do!!!

you will be a scale/sport flyer. just like me much more civilised and eco friendly

tbh i would go for a dx7 this will give you a spare channel for anything you may wish to add in future projects( retracts / controled lights/ engine govener /etc)

[flatspins]

If you plan on going for something scale, a DX7 would be the better choice as you would be able to use retracts if the fuz had them.

Also if you wanted to use a govenor, you would need the 7th channel

[Bell 206]

'retracts if the fuz had them'....errmm, what's that then?? Sorry, but I really am a rookie with all this

[moonmanflyer]

if you were to do a scale heli and you wanted the wheels to retract, thats what it means.
A govener, keeps the blades at a constant speed, 1 so they don't suddenly slow on an extremme manover and 2 so the engine does not over speed when coming down as they have a tendancy of doing

[marktigere1]

3d is all the flippy floppy spinny around nonsense that the guys with big cahoonas do!!!

Class!!

[Made2Fade]

Future proof yourself a little more and get the DX7.

Lee

[Bell 206]

Yeah, Scale flying is defo what I want to do then and tbh, I'm only interested in Bell 206's (it really is that narrow and focused with me!) and perhaps the Hughes 500, so retracts are a non-starter. Will still get the DX7 and fire the sim up asap (does Phoenix have a Jetranger or Longranger on it!??)

[Boggy]

yes a jet ranger

[Bell 206]

Excellent - thanks for the info, will defo be getting that then I really am serious about getting my Kalt 60 Ranger flying and it will take as long as it takes, but one day. Meantime its the sim and the MCX - thanks again for the advice all!!

[Disc]

Get the best tranny you can afford and look to what your aim is

DX-7 Tranny is very good

But also consider get a pod and boom heli learn to fly that before flying a scale machine also remember you could scale the pod and boom machine at a later day.

Don't think a Sim then a scale machine would be a good idea... it wouldn't be

don't even go from coaxial to scale either not a wise move

[Boggy]

good advice Mark

[Bell 206]

Scale fuselages make them more unstable then?? As I say I'll get the sim and start there - I was going to get a pod and boom early next year sometime tbh, but was planning on scaling it straight away and putting it on a training pad. Maybe a 30 size Raptor or similar. At the moment I'm sure most would agree the sim is the way forward, though of course I'm open to whatever suggestions people think are right.

[Boggy]

the main reason is cost mate if you add a fuse' before learning to fly proper, your first crash will be an expensive one

[Disc]

Scale fuselages make them more unstable then?? As I say I'll get the sim and start there - I was going to get a pod and boom early next year sometime tbh, but was planning on scaling it straight away and putting it on a training pad. Maybe a 30 size Raptor or similar. At the moment I'm sure most would agree the sim is the way forward, though of course I'm open to whatever suggestions people think are right.

Get a T-rex 600n pod and boom

or Sceadu 50 EVO.

These 2 airframes will scale very well for you in the future avoid Raptor to scale and the 600n is cheaper to fix...

Now you want to learn all the basic stuff as it is in pod and boom so circuits all hovering moves and Nose in, figure 8's stall turns and maybe loops if you want. But learn it all pod and boom.

But every move listed above will teach you several things for scale flying as that is your aim

Because when you crash a scale body it WILL Wreck it !!!

Trust me I've done it once and a wrecked scale body is not a nice thing!

If you learn right you'll be ready for just about thing when you fly scale do it wrong it will COST you 10 times more!

Also don't put the cheap crappy ass servos most scale flyers seem to put in bodys like 3001's or 3003's aim for 3050's on the collective there 6kg pull so theres plenty of pull to get you out the shit when it goes wrong!

Scale flying the machines feel heavier they are slower to respond depending how you kit them out. but they can be set up to be agile as well if required. I wouldn't say there unstable though