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**Sao** · 09-07-2008, 04:52 PM

I'm also torn between the two.
I have both an old futaba 9C and an old JR PCM 9x and I prefer the PCM9x by far, it has a much nicer feel to the gimbals and I prefer the JR method of programming.
However I just cannot justify the ridiculous cost of the new DSX9 but I dont want the 10C if the gimbals feel worse than the DSX9 ones. AARGH!

**Tim Procter** · 09-07-2008, 05:18 PM

Can't comment on the Futaba but had the JR DSX9 since release.

Yes they are a price but I can't fault the TX at all.

You are doing exactly the right thing by asking people their opinion on these two fantastic sets... So would I if I were buying but if this got broke/stolen or went knackered for some reason I would replace it in a second with the very same without any hesitation.

BTW: I still have my DX7 which I am still very fond of but the DXS9 is in a different league IMO.

FYI I have seen the JR for £375 unit only somewhere but can't remember where, Worth a trawl around the net for a best price.

**t-rex pedro** · 09-07-2008, 05:36 PM

I had this dilema until I discussed it with a fellow club member.

I looked at the 10c but didnt like the 35Mhz aerial and the 2.4 module in the back. I understand Futaba are aiming for the target market to have the option to fly both 35 an 2.4 as they upgrade receivers in every model but to me this is false economy. Sooner rather than later they will bring out the 10c without the 35Mhz facility and the current one will be old hat. I opted to save two hundred quid and get the FF7 2.4

I'd love a 12FG but 750 notes is outrageous.

Not used JR radios. I'm sure they are quality but expensive as you say.

I weighed it up - form over function and its intended use. I dont look at my radio whilst flying!!!

**Smoothound** · 09-07-2008, 05:43 PM

If I could afford it I'd go for a DSX9 but I can't

On top of that I still have a couple of gliders that are not likely to switch to 2.4 unless the Rx's get to a more sensible size or I remove the CF from the fuse of one of them

**SRH990** · 09-07-2008, 06:02 PM

I'm using a PCM9X II with a Spektrum module fitted, not a DSX9 but I got the module as soon as it was available as I really prefer it over the DX7 I was using. If it got stolen or badly damaged it would be replaced with a DSX9.

I think the dual band capability of the 10C is a short term solution to encourage 35Mhz users to switch to 2.4Ghz, as t-rex pedro says and will be replaced by a single band 2.4Ghz set eventually. Personally I don't want or need a 35Mhz capability which means the set has two aerials and a great lump sticking out of the back, it's a compromise I can do without.

**Guest** · 09-07-2008, 06:25 PM

It's not just the price that's stopping me getting the dsx9

On the Spektrum now the idle up is on the left and throttle hold is on the right
The dsx9 has them the other way, idle up right and t/h left
It seems like the UK versions of JR are like this and US versions same as Spektrum and Futaba, WHY?

I'm looking for more than 7 ch so the FF7 doesn't apply
Checking the 10C spec's and programming functions seem better than dsx9

If I get the Futaba I will need to replace 8 Spektrum Rx's
That's the other hold back

The 12FG is outrageous too and defo out for my needs
Might just get a 35Mhz PCM 9xII TX for under £180

**Tim Procter** · 09-07-2008, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by EZchopper View Post

On the Spektrum now the idle up is on the left and throttle hold is on the right
The dsx9 has them the other way, idle up right and t/h left
It seems like the UK versions of JR are like this and US versions same as Spektrum and Futaba, WHY?

Maybe different in my case because I fly Mode 1 but both my DX7 and my DSX9 both have Idle up on the right and Throttle hold on the left.

Both bought within the UK.

**t-rex pedro** · 09-07-2008, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by EZchopper View Post

I'm looking for more than 7 ch so the FF7 doesn't apply
Checking the 10C spec's and programming functions seem better than dsx9

If I get the Futaba I will need to replace 8 Spektrum Rx's
That's the other hold back

For this reason alone I think the JR is a no brainer. May be a bit more expensive but not when you consider the cost of 8 new rx. Its a great set and ticks all your boxes (if you really must have more than 7 channels). Look at it this way - the cost divided by the number of years use isnt really that much.

**SRH990** · 09-07-2008, 08:05 PM

The DX7 is a radio designed with the American market in mind so has the idle up on the left and throttle hold on the right, as does the 9303 (US version of the DSX9). Both of these radios are fixed mode and the 9303 has an anologue throttle trim. The JR PCM9XII and DSX9 are intended for the UK and most other countries and have idle up on the right and throttle hold on the left plus programmable modes from 1 to 4 and a digital throttle trim. As you've started with a DX7 you're used to the US layout, not our UK layout

You can assign different functions to most of the switches on the DSX9 so you may be able to swap idle up and thrittle hold to different locations. I've had radios with idle up on the left, right and right front bezzel with throttle hold in various places too, I soon got used to it although it can be a problem if you're using two different sets with different layouts in the same flying session

**Toolman** · 09-07-2008, 08:10 PM

On the Spektrum now the idle up is on the left and throttle hold is on the right
The dsx9 has them the other way, idle up right and t/h left
It seems like the UK versions of JR are like this and US versions same as Spektrum and Futaba, WHY?

I think its to do with the Japan market where Mode 1 is popular.
If you can solder though this isn't a big problem see here:-
http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/showth...t=10722&page=3

Tim.

**trvo** · 09-07-2008, 09:46 PM

For what it's worth, I've been using the 12FG Futaba 2.4 for a long time and it's been awesome from day 1. There's more on it than I'll ever use. I no longer have rx failures as I did with the 9ch spektrums (all 6 of which were hardware faults and replaced foc which I then sold). The 7ch spektrums were faultless for me however. I can't speak for the 10c though...

Trev

**Guest** · 10-07-2008, 11:40 PM

As much as I would like a 12FG (can't afford one)
It would be an over kill for me

If the Futaba 10C 2.4G was compatible with the Spektrum, I would have got one yesterday
If the JR dsx9 Tx was £325'ish I would get one tomorrow

I really don't think the JR is worth that much more than the Futaba

I'll be waiting close to Christmas to get a new Tx
So if Macgregor don't lower the dsx9 price by then I would get the Futaba and sell all my Spektrum

Errr.....Maybe

**Steve** · 11-07-2008, 12:01 AM

The position of the switches really ain't that much of a problem.

I switched Txs a while ago and the flight mode switch changed sides from the old Tx to the new one. I had to think about it for a few flights (maybe 3 ish), and after that it I was settled into the new Tx, no bother. Just make sure that whatever used to be your important switch on the old set, is a 'nothing' switch on the new set for the early days. That way, if you flick it by mistake, nothing will happen.

It really isn't such a big deal to try something different - you soon get used to it.

**beatnik** · 12-07-2008, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by trvo View Post

For what it's worth, I've been using the 12FG Futaba 2.4 for a long time and it's been awesome from day 1. There's more on it than I'll ever use.

Slightly off topic, but here are my opinions on 10C versus 12FG. I made the switch to a 12FG 2.4GHz after using a 9C with the TM-7 module. It really does offer many significant advantages over the 10C. Features like channel reordering, swash ring, advanced swash mixing to help with levelling are all genuinely useful features that I use regularly. I fly Mode 1 so the ONLY way I can use a swash ring is to use a virtual one in the software.

You can also upgrade the software on the 12FG, a crucial feature for me because it means my TX will remain on the cutting edge. I recently upgraded to v1.5 and there were some great improvments and new features.

I just don't think the 10C is that much of a leap over the 9C. I'm sure the latency issues for eCCPM have been sorted from the 9C, but the software still looks really average (from what I've read in the instruction manual).

Also the TM-10 module sticks right out of the back, just like the TM-7 module on the 9C. This means that when you put the transmitter down it rests on the module and not the handle. In my opinion this is a real hack from Futaba and looks a mess: http://www.zerorc.com/files/3/WRAMShow2008_05.JPG.

In contrast the TM-14 module on the 12FG is really slick and sits on the inside of the carrying handle, a much better design in my opinion: http://static.rcgroups.com/forums/at...FG12module.jpg

You can get the 12FG TX and module for £599, I really think it offers the best feature set versus price on the market. The software is very similar to the more expensive 12Z and 14MZ. It's also 14ch and so can actually use the R6014 RX, unlike the 10C which is limited to 10ch.

In summary I think the lack of software updates, the bulky TM-10 module and the average software features make the 10C an unattractive option. The 12FG has significantly more features and is a true next-generation transmitter, without the crazy price tag of the 12Z/14MZ.

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