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  • #46
    So in easy terms you adjust the ATV via the Cyclock or have I got this wrong?
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Nutz View Post
      So in easy terms you adjust the ATV via the Cyclock or have I got this wrong?
      yes you max out the atv's in the tranny then you can adjust the atv, speed position of each servo in any direction also phasing can be done... awesome bit of kit hoping to get one shortly
      cheers Lee


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      • #48
        Sorry to reserect an old post. I have a K3D, im having probs with always corkscrewing out of loops, I had a frend fly it and he had to compensate to keep them straight. My mechanical setup it ok (i believe) and he said it may be due to channel 6 being laggy (Futaba CHP9) and that I should give the Cyclock a try. All my ccmp servos are the same age (BLS491's). Do any of you who have used this think it will help?

        Thanks in advance

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        • #49
          The cyclock transmits the channels simultaneously so if it is indeed a laggy CH6 then it will fix it. The real question is whether it actually is this or something else entirely. I'd check the setup with a good swashplate leveller first as it may just be interaction that you can't see easily without a swash leveller.
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          • #50
            Like ^^^^^^ he says.

            Use Bob's CCPM setup videos on the other website (helifreak) to make sure your mechanical system is bang on. If you've still got a problem, then it's time to look at the electronics. Mechanical comes first, electronical comes second.
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            • #51
              as well as the above make sure you have the phasing right.

              with the flybar inline with the boom check the ball on the upper half off the swash lines up with the front ball on the lower half of the swash, if its not loosen the grub screws on the washout guide and twist it round on the mainshaft until the balls.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Ade_Law View Post
                chris if we all thought like that then we would still hunting bears for food and living in caves

                Ade
                too be honest i would prefer it this way, also chasing the woman and clubbing er over the head if she don't do as she's told

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                • #53
                  ok i have a cyclock fitted it on the Odin yesterday and spent a couple of hours messing around getting it spot on.

                  first got all the servos working the right direction. for each control. the CCPM setup was pretty close to spot on mechancially so didnt bother redoing it. The cyclock has adjustable phasing in it too so you guys with models with fixed mechanical phasing can get it right! Odin is adjustable so i left it at zero.

                  Started at mid stick and tuned the centres in the setup using my swash leveler as reference.

                  then tuned the collective gains top and bottom to get the swash level at the top and bottom stick.

                  now the cool bits... these are things that no mechanical or radio on the market at the moment do afaik.

                  theres a servo speed adjustment. collective to centre and wiggle elevator quickly. the ball on the swash will move vertically on the mainshaft, increase the figure until this wobble dissappears.

                  next go to top stick and move the aileron you will see the swash will drop slightly. adjust the "top collective" aileron to collective value until it doesnt do it. Do the same for the elevator.

                  and repeat for bottom collective.

                  Im using 8231 and running them in digi mode on the cyclock not sure what benefit this is when not running flybarless but im sure there must be one!

                  Finally i made a power loom like i did on the 3d so the servos get direct power rather than it going through the rx and cyclock.

                  talking to people i have heard people say "im running 2.4, i dont need one" whilst 2.4 is double the resolution of 35mhz when using CCPM you still drop down to around 600 steps of resolution rather than the full 2048 you can get with running the cyclock. All of the stuff i have mentioned above is relevant to you 2.4 boys too.

                  so what does it fly like? Its an Odin so of course it rocks :-)

                  but the cyclock has made a noticeable difference to the accuracy of the model and im not sure why but it feels crisper too, like fitting faster servos. Not quite sure why that is!

                  I dont think that this can be used to make up for a poor mechanical setup. but it can be used to fine tune that last few % to get it spot on.

                  the only real trouble i had was working out what did what and had some issues with the interface timing out when making adjustments.

                  other than that its cool.

                  Ade
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                  • #54
                    So CSM haven't signed your sponsorship deal yet.
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                    • #55
                      I got a cyclock fs, pm me if interested. Ade, sorry to butt in on your thread.
                      Dan.

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                      • #56
                        After that review I'd have to ask why???
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                        • #57
                          just not needed, only got the 500 now, but the cyclock was awesome on the old K3d...

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                          • #58
                            lol no CSM sponsorship here. I read the blurb, saw the advantages and got hold of one. Just passing on my findings.

                            if you want to get your CCPM perfect, this is the only way i know of to do it.

                            Ade
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                            • #59
                              I know, I know.. Bump from the past

                              ..but has anyone seen any good setup vids about for the Cyclock?

                              Mine has just been delivered and I know how to dial out interaction, but dont know what phasing looks like on the bench so cant use the cyclock to remove it until im up the field.

                              Any tips?

                              Cheers
                              x 3

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by sacko View Post
                                I know, I know.. Bump from the past

                                ..but has anyone seen any good setup vids about for the Cyclock?

                                Mine has just been delivered and I know how to dial out interaction, but dont know what phasing looks like on the bench so cant use the cyclock to remove it until im up the field.

                                Any tips?

                                Cheers
                                Heya

                                Easy way to notice it is when you do a forward or backwards flip or roll for that matter, you will see the heli "Screw" and tilt to one side during a flip,

                                Try about -2 or +2

                                Regards
                                Callum
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