Flybarless multi blade?

[nuttygt4]

If I purchased an after market multi blade head for my 450, would I need to go flybarless?

[glen_j]

all the multiblade heads i've seen are flybarless however i think this is done mechanically by the head

[andylinney]

It'd be flyable but challenging. If you were wanting to be very serious about it you could have a look at a HeliCommand Rigid or perhaps a CSM Cyclock with some CSM 720's to calm it all down a wee bit.

[billytkid]

Fast lad do a number of multi blade systems with included flybarless kit:
http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/inde...cc941040f837a7

Might be worth looking at

[nuttygt4]

Fast lad do a number of multi blade systems with included flybarless kit:
http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/inde...cc941040f837a7

Might be worth looking at

There not too bad a price, I was expecting them to be alot more expensive!
Although the multi heads are for 3mm shafts, I'm not sure but think the 450 is 5mm, but could be wrong.

[Fast_lad]

Hi there, the 3mm heads are for gaui's etc.... We do a number of 5mm ones for the t-rex etc here..

http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/adva...+blade&x=0&y=0

Cheers

Chris
Fast Lad Performance
www.fast-lad.co.uk

[Aidi]

Having tried this, the biggest recommendation i can make is to ensure you have the collar that goes from the swash to the main shaft in exactly the right spot. A couple of mm either way will cause you no end of problems. its called percession. With my 5 blade head on a 450 this was done by moving the collar until the blade parallel to the boom did not move when cyclic was applied. Even when set, it was a real handful to fly!

You have to get the headspeed right too. Cant remember which way, but i think if you have a lot of head speed it makes it easer to hover, however you will loose tail authority... and that can really catch you out as it did me.

If you are really serious about getting this to fly well, then look at some of the already mentioned flybarless systems already on the market. It will effectively put gyro stability on the aileron and elevator for you and make it much easier to fly.

Rgds
Aidi

[nuttygt4]

Having tried this, the biggest recommendation i can make is to ensure you have the collar that goes from the swash to the main shaft in exactly the right spot. A couple of mm either way will cause you no end of problems. its called percession. With my 5 blade head on a 450 this was done by moving the collar until the blade parallel to the boom did not move when cyclic was applied. Even when set, it was a real handful to fly!

You have to get the headspeed right too. Cant remember which way, but i think if you have a lot of head speed it makes it easer to hover, however you will loose tail authority... and that can really catch you out as it did me.

If you are really serious about getting this to fly well, then look at some of the already mentioned flybarless systems already on the market. It will effectively put gyro stability on the aileron and elevator for you and make it much easier to fly.

Rgds
Aidi

Cheers for that, I'm going to go with a four blade head, and the flybarless system fastlads recomended in my other post.