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    Been reading a lot about Kong Power Lipos and i see that Als Hobbies now stock them and they are well priced,they make a point of this non Puff and 2.2v per cell discharge limit,,just wondered if anybody has any feedback over here on them..

    http://alshobbies.com/shop/lookupsto...?pc=7485&Desc=

    Ta
    Last edited by ChrisB; 29-01-2008, 10:09 PM.

  • #2
    I know lots of people rave about them on helifreak. I don't think they have such a good reputation on this forum for some reason? I would be interested in others opinions regarding their performance (assuming they own some KP's).
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    • #3
      The rumour is that these are based on the same cells as AirThunder. Which I have got and used. I did a comparison of that pack to a kokam 2000 and a Revo 2100. It's on the site.
      However, bear in mind this is rumour, I haven't been able to verify that Kong Power and AirThunder are the same chemistry/cell myself.
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      • #4
        Don't think the name helps, kinda cheesy ain't it.
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        • #5
          The way Kong Power prevents the packs from puffing is to fit plates each side of the pack/cell to prevent it from expanding..rumour has it this is why they weight a little more for similiar capacity.

          From what I have read..and some of it is likely twaddle, is that as a lipo degrades the pack internally becomes "mushy"

          The KP can withstand overdischarge a little better than most (but will deterioate quicker the more you do it) They may be anti puff but not exempt from lowering there performance and reduced cycles due to missuse..it just happens at a reduced rate.

          At a guess my theory.. when a lipo puffs it's caused by heat within the pack..Once it swells/gets hot with that airgap round the cells and the different internal/external temp it will likely create moisture and gas vapour within the pack causing it to degrade more quickly.

          I suspect KP by keeping the cells compressed prevent the swelling.. hence with no airgap this will minimise the breakdown of the cells.
          Off course I could be talking

          Brian


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          • #6
            Thanks chaps

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            • #7
              Originally posted by barney View Post
              Off course I could be talking
              Brian
              Thank god for that !!!
              I was nearly lost there

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              • #8
                Actually they use a different technology we call "Rolled Kernel instead of laminating the cells. They might well have a anti puff compond as they claim . Rolling them, however, makes the cells harder to puff, but heavier.

                http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/a...articles_id=63
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                • #9
                  that's what kokam originally patented, the technology to roll up the plates without fracturing them.
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                  • #10
                    So ones a sausage roll the other a wafer

                    Is there additionial plates each side as well to keep it compressed?


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                    • #11
                      Kong power lipo stripped http://blip.tv/file/636664
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                      • #12
                        Soddering

                        LOL
                        Cheers,
                        Rob
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                        • #13
                          Nice one fixxer..glad that ones been cleared up.. that dispels the twaddle I read on the other forum that I picked up on.. those packs are well protected

                          thanks Brian


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by robgt View Post
                            Soddering

                            LOL
                            Cheers,
                            Rob
                            LMAO Rob, that really is one of those lines you just can never forget.

                            No probs Barney, just subscribe to the RSS feeds and that was added.
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                            • #15
                              Fixxxer...
                              No probs Barney, just subscribe to the RSS feeds and that was added
                              .

                              AND what hell is RSS feeds ...Ok had a lookie

                              ..any linky's you suggest I follow up to save me grappling with the new technology though

                              Brian


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