1ST CRASH :d PRETTY BAD mt crasH

[Md001]

hello all, was very excited after I got my pack of lipos in the morning...but after long 4 hours of charging tried hovering the heli and crashed it........

heli was moving forward as soon as it lifted up...so I pull the right stick backwards to balance it and lowered the throttle speed=== this is the result....

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damaged:
1.rotor blades
2.broken tail servo
3.bent flybar and paddles
4.bent tail boom and tail support
5.missing tail link rod
6.missing ball link in the top blade grips
7. cracked tail gear box

Hope to fix these stuff...and maybe I will get back to flying soon.......

regards.
Md

[PKNEC]

It happens Md, my raptor went in due to a ball link parting company with the control rod.
As regards it moving forward on take off sounds like the swash might not be level? training gear would be worth fitting if your new to flying and a flight sim for practice.

[iceuk]

I knew you'd crash when you posted earlier that you were charging packs and going out in evening.
Take your time get heli setup well make it docile and use training gear, pick a nice day and just do hops to
Start with, lift heli 6 inches i the air then put it down, rinse repeat for a whole pack. Then try getting a bit
Higher next pack. Work in small increments. By the time your on your fourth pack you really
Want to be a few feet in the air that way heli should feel a bit more stable as your out of the main rotors
Wash. Ie dirty air.

My little tip, most ppl new to hobby over compensate when moving the sticks, "i certainly did in the beginning" if your only trying to hover
You really only need to move the cyclic a few millimeters to correct any drift.
And For every action there has to be a reaction, you probably over compensated for the forward movement and then
The snowball effect kicked in.
If your learning on concrete or even nice grass and you get a moment when heli starts to get away from you, providing
You got traing gear on and no m9re than a few feet in the air you can get away by just hitting throttle hold, make sure
You only have a degree or so of negative pitch and it will just float back downm

The forward motion could be your swash not level or it simple could be that you are putting unwanted
Cyclic inputs when starting heli which is easily done if you new, helis tend to drift to left but correcting
For this becomes 2nd nature eventually.
Not sure how windy it was when took off but wind can push those small helis around quite a bit.

[tomatwalden]

If you're new to flying, you need to learn differently. Collective pitch helis are NOT easy to fly, so either,

- contact an RC flight school who can buddy box you. (Eg. Coolice, flying fish, etc)
- learn on a small, cheap micro that can survive crashes (eg. Mcpx, msrx, 120sr)
- learn on a simulator (ie Phoenix sim or real flight)
- use training skids and follow a regime ( check out www.rchelicopterfun.com where's there's a 10 day training programme)

Be CAREFUL! See other thread this morning about an experienced pilot killed by his heli. Do not just take your heli to the local park and "give it a go"!

As for the right stick lowering the throttle ... Have you got a mode 1 transmitter ?

http://www.horizonhobby.com/article/...mode-2-article


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[RcRotaryMadness]

Oooo you've done a lovely job of that tailboom! like art! and don't worry crashing is part of the hobby! Just have to rebuild and try again.

Few tips:

Practise on a sim
Get at least a few hours training with a pro/buddy lead
keep your distance
fly in a safe place.

[tomatwalden]

1ST CRASH :d PRETTY BAD mt crasH

Hope to fix these stuff...and maybe I will get back to flying soon.......

regards.
Md

Once you've rebuilt it, you would be best off finding somebody to test fly it for you. Preferably somebody who knows how to tweak flybar setups. If it isn't setup properly (which can be quite complex), you'll never learn on it!

Btw, looks like its from a scale fuselage ?? (Judging by raised tail rotor)


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[PKNEC]

Once you've rebuilt it, you would be best of finding somebody to test fly it for you. Preferably somebody who knows how to tweak flybar setups. If it isn't setup properly (which can be quite complex), you'll never learn on it!

Btw, looks like its from a scale fuselage ?? (Judging by raised tail rotor)

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Probably the AH-1W Super cobraToledoShow2009_104.JPG

[dw45]

Get someone experienced to check the set up before you try and learn, also training skids are a must.

[SaneAdam]

If you're new to flying, you need to learn differently. Collective pitch helis are NOT easy to fly, so either,

- contact an RC flight school who can buddy box you. (Eg. Coolice, flying fish, etc)
- learn on a small, cheap micro that can survive crashes (eg. Mcpx, msrx, 120sr)
- learn on a simulator (ie Phoenix sim or real flight)
- use training skids and follow a regime ( check out www.rchelicopterfun.com where's there's a 10 day training programme)

Be CAREFUL! See other thread this morning about an experienced pilot killed by his heli. Do not just take your heli to the local park and "give it a go"!

As for the right stick lowering the throttle ... Have you got a mode 1 transmitter ?

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Like Tom has said.... If you are new to the hobby YOU MUST follow the instructions he has given you. IT WILL save you time, money, frustration etc. It will also be a lot safer. IMO there is no way you should be getting in that deep already. Unless you can fly a micro pretty comfortably. My apologies if you have already gone through the 4 ch micro stage. It is a VITAL stage in your development

[buzzbird]

Just to recap, I was passing that way and spent a couple of days with him last week repairing previous damage and setting the heli up correctly. It was flying perfectly, swash level and so on.
I'm back in my own part of the country so I can't get down there to help him out and get the damage repaired, but in the long run he's going to have to learn to do this anyway.
He was dead against using a sim, but I foisted an Esky controller, FMS and HelisimRC on him, and by all accounts he was getting there with HelisimRC.

He's doing all the right things, just he wants to master it instantly.

[buzzbird]

- learn on a small, cheap micro that can survive crashes (eg. Mcpx, msrx, 120sr)

He's got a cheap 3-ch co-ax but it's a weird Mode 1 type setup. Even I found it impossible to fly. More of a hindrance than a help.

- learn on a simulator (ie Phoenix sim or real flight)

He's got FMS on one computer, and HelisimRC on the other.

- use training skids and follow a regime ( check out RC Helicopters, The Most Fun And Rewarding Of All RC Hobbies. where's there's a 10 day training programme)

He has training skids, but we took them off for setting-up. They won't, of course, be of much help if he gets it hovering OGE, as they'll oscillate. They're only much good at the hopping stage to prevent tipovers. In the air they're a disaster.

Be CAREFUL! See other thread this morning about an experienced pilot killed by his heli. Do not just take your heli to the local park and "give it a go"!

Sadly, he's very limited as to where he can fly. His local park is the only place open to him other than a flying club.

As for the right stick lowering the throttle ... Have you got a mode 1 transmitter ?

No, it's a Mode 2 DX6i.

[tourerjim]

If you pm a list of parts needed i may have most but the head parts will be alloy.

[buzzbird]

Jim
Went over damage pics with him last night, so far damage as far as I can see is this lot:

PV0905 TAIL BOOM 300mm - dented
PV0704 Main shaft - bent
PV0707 Feathering shaft - bent (pending check)
PV0709 Flybar - bent
PV0744 Flybar paddles - snapped off
PV0755 Ball links 3.8mm - pitch link AWOL
PV0754 Link rod set - pitch link AWOL
PV0752 Tail support - destroyed
PV0753 Tail linkage rod - AWOL
PV0923 Tail Rotor Black - 1 snapped
PV0910 Tail Linkage Rod "A" - AWOL
PV0907 TAIL GEARBOX - cracked
and a tail servo, I think he's got a DS415 or DS420.

Miraculously, he said his main gear didn't lose any teeth. If there's any other items I'm sure he'll add em, but I doubt there's much more.

[Md001]

Hello Tom,

yeh I got the AH-1w cobra scale fuselage and I got mode 2 dx6i Tx....sorry for the late reply was a bit frustrated after the crash

If you're new to flying, you need to learn differently. Collective pitch helis are NOT easy to fly, so either,

- contact an RC flight school who can buddy box you. (Eg. Coolice, flying fish, etc)
- learn on a small, cheap micro that can survive crashes (eg. Mcpx, msrx, 120sr)
- learn on a simulator (ie Phoenix sim or real flight)
- use training skids and follow a regime ( check out www.rchelicopterfun.com where's there's a 10 day training programme)

Be CAREFUL! See other thread this morning about an experienced pilot killed by his heli. Do not just take your heli to the local park and "give it a go"!

As for the right stick lowering the throttle ... Have you got a mode 1 transmitter ?

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[Md001]

that is correct my friend I got the desert one...LOL but too bad I could only fly it 2 3 mins and baaaaam!