Synergy n5 upgrade pack

[Swashbuckler]

V-Bar another one of my 700's to be honest and slap a kasama head on it, no contest.

So hang on completely change the way it's controlled and bling the head?
Then it would still cost more than a 50 to run.
The velocity is good and repair costs are low but the metal is soft, not quite Align cheesium but soft and cast never the less. The blade grip arms bend even in the slightest bump. They may be only a 5iver a pair but.... And the bellcrank shaft is not meaty enough, and the tank is stupid, and you can't buy the 140 degree elevator shaft seperately. I could go on but I won't and I actually love my velocity but I'm looking foward to the N5, it's in a different class.

[chugga-bug]

This is all nonsense
If you don't like the price, don't buy it! Having owned an N9 and had a good look over the N5 it's easy to see why they cost a bit more than some.

I bet we won't be reading about gears stripping, tails exploding, bearings failing, screws stripping, phasing issues, (need I go on!).
Skoda or BMW? They same job, but ones cheaper for a reason!

[jamiem]

James, most of what you wrote is total bollox. The upgrades are not "required", ask anyone who has actually flown one. As has been pointed out, they are there because people (myself included) are magpies and like shiny bits. If they do make it fly even better, then great!

As for the N9 requiring "half a ton of upgrades", utter nonsense. Fan hub is great as it just makes installing the fan and engine much easier for those not wanting to dial indicate the hub. Nothing else is required. I run a hyper torque tube which when I bin it will b&w being replaced with a standard one; no real difference in performance, especially for the £80 odd price tag. My washout arms developed some play after about 50 bottles of fuel, so I replaced with metal. Any difference other than no slop any more (which could have been achieved by replacing with new much cheaper plastic items)? Nope, feck all.

My point here is that we can an do fit upgrades, but are you capable of actuallin telling me the difference in flight? In this case I doubt it. If we were talking about the older Align plastic 600 grips versus the metal ones, that's a different ball game entirely; the plastic arms on those had a lot of flex.

I stand waiting to be proven wrong, but with the plastic grips, it really does fly very sharp; go and do a search for therealswashbuckler on YouTube and look at Danny Locks flight and tell me where it's failing in that flight. It's a proper hard smackdown flight which would have easily shown any failings in pitch and cyclic response.

[lex7919]

i'll fetch the :lurk5:

[Jamin_00]

I dont care I just cant wait for my N5 and the bling baby yea

I have been warned of buying a new model from the start by many a person, all better flyers than me but I'm wanting to prove them wrong with this one so dont let me down Synergy

[Grant_beltcp]

I have to agree... this heli is going to rock from stock i'm sure. Even avant have plastic tail grips, and soon coming out with metal upgrades for them. The 700 came with plastic tail grips, and has metal upgrades and they dont fly any better at all. People buy them because they love the look of a shiny heli. Myself included, Its the reason i dont own a logo

[moonmanflyer]

James, most of what you wrote is total bollox. The upgrades are not "required", ask anyone who has actually flown one. As has been pointed out, they are there because people (myself included) are magpies and like shiny bits. If they do make it fly even better, then great!

As for the N9 requiring "half a ton of upgrades", utter nonsense. Fan hub is great as it just makes installing the fan and engine much easier for those not wanting to dial indicate the hub. Nothing else is required. I run a hyper torque tube which when I bin it will b&w being replaced with a standard one; no real difference in performance, especially for the £80 odd price tag. My washout arms developed some play after about 50 bottles of fuel, so I replaced with metal. Any difference other than no slop any more (which could have been achieved by replacing with new much cheaper plastic items)? Nope, feck all.

My point here is that we can an do fit upgrades, but are you capable of actuallin telling me the difference in flight? In this case I doubt it. If we were talking about the older Align plastic 600 grips versus the metal ones, that's a different ball game entirely; the plastic arms on those had a lot of flex.

I stand waiting to be proven wrong, but with the plastic grips, it really does fly very sharp; go and do a search for therealswashbuckler on YouTube and look at Danny Locks flight and tell me where it's failing in that flight. It's a proper hard smackdown flight which would have easily shown any failings in pitch and cyclic response.

I WAS NOT slagging off the standard equipment at all jamie, just saying if you read it that there is no need to change them if the standard parts are ok, read into what i have said a bit more.
I am a beliver that if the parts work, i would not personally change them, just for the sake of bling factor, thats all, nuff said, if they work and last the test of time then i wouldn't bother myself. I would prefer to keep the 75 quid and put it towards spares savings. If then i decided to upgrade after a ding, then i would as you say want to know it improves the beast as i am sure it would making it more precise and poppy. I just wouldn't do it from new, be quite happy to run standard kit
As for the N9, i retract my statement, i don't pretend to be an expert on them.
Do i expect there to be issues with the N5, yes of course i do, what heli out there doesn't have some issues, even with Matts extensive tests, there is always something that might get missed when a production run is done, thats just life. But i am sure that it won't be nothing as bad as others that have been released with many flaws.
Nuff said.

[Dodger]

We wanted to make N5 option parts available from release of the model. N9 option parts appeared too late in the model's life and by that time other manufacturers had already stepped in to satisfy owner's wishes for shiny options. Some of them provided performance improvements, others were purely aesthetic.

With N5 parts, certainly the metal blade grips will make a difference to feel. However I can fully understand the appeal for having components manufactured in better materials and that choice is for each customer to make. With regard to N5 costs, again that value is in the eye of the beholder. It is not a budget model and that value cannot be justified by everyone. In terms of performance and durability we believe that it is probably the best 50 sized model available today; it has not been designed to be a cheap alternative to main stream 50s. By the same token there are other 50s that cost more and potentially deliver less.

[raptorheli2]

sometimes your damned if you do and damned when you don't.

if people want the shiney stuff they will get it, nothing wrong with that.

fwiw my own n9's were 100% bone stock and i flew one of them non stop for best part of 2 years with zero failures other than the occasional thumb glitch. i have no doubts the N5 will be fine out the box either.

more importantly than that trivial bickery..............WHEN WHEN WHEN!???!

cheers

[ade999]

Kits are in the UK as we speak, we are awaiting them to be cleared through customs so kits will be with dealers by the end of the week..:-)

[Ashley Davis]

I see some 'talking bollocks' in here with regard to the Outrage V50. So just for the record......

1) all metal parts on the Velocity are CNC machined and then where required are beed blasted to remove swirls. This latter step will soon not be required as the V90 and soon after V50 parts will all be manufactured on a brand new high spec CNC rig. The quality difference is very noticeable from this new CNC machine as people will see when the V90 arrives. There are no 'cast' parts on the machine what-so-ever.

2) the V50 is manufactured from US sourced (Alcoa Ltd.) alloy. There is no cheap 'chinese cheese' on the machine. The majority of CNC parts are 7075 alloy (ie. aircraft grade and very hard). Where rigidity is unwanted and would cause fatigue 6061 alloy is used (ie blade grip arms). Also 6061 is used where you want parts to give in a crash to save damage to more expensive parts (e.g. blade grip arms again). As always use the right metal for the job in hand.

Not wanting to derail the N5 lusting...... just think people should have the facts when making comparisons.

[Tim Procter]

I see some 'talking bollocks' in here

You not been around Ashley.

Loads of talking bollox lately.

Not wanting to derail the N5 lusting...... just think people should have the facts when making comparisons.

Facts are the N5 "Should" prove to be a good heli but as the Align stuff is still mega cheap to buy and repair I'll stick with them for the time being..

I presume Jamie will be bringing his N5 up here this summer, I'll blag a go with that to see if I can crash it like it..

[jamiem]

You will be more than welcome Tim

[Swashbuckler]

I guess that was me talking bollocks I just assumed the velocity bits were cast rather than cnc. They do say never assume as it makes an ass of u & me. All the rest of the things I said about it are true though - stupid tank, elevator shaft could be better, they could sell the elevator shaft seperately for the people who have got the 140 swash mod, and it flies lovely .

[moonmanflyer]

I still want another 50 size, to replace my written off pro ( a bad day over crimbo) and the N5 is top of the list, just don't want to upgrade it and fly it as is, even going to use a 50 hyper, funds are tight........lol, decision will have to be made soon, though it won't fly for a while as i still need bits