Kitting out a rave?

[clark-newcombe]

Hi,

Thinking about getting a rave env nitro. Would an align 91hp be powerful enough for mild 3d? Also would align ds610 be suitable to run along with the beast x controller?

Cheers

Stan

[tonystevens]

Yes yes and yes, although if you stuck a YS120 in it itll blow your socks off lol

[Bluegarry1]

I cant speak about Nitro power as I'm all electric, but I can say that the BeastX is more than up to the job and Align 610's on the cyclic and 655 on the tail will be absolutely fine. The Rave ENV is a very big bird and quite heavy too so perhaps a 105 nitro might be a better bet.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Garry

Hi,

Thinking about getting a rave env nitro. Would an align 91hp be powerful enough for mild 3d? Also would align ds610 be suitable to run along with the beast x controller?

Cheers

Stan

[trillian]

It kinda depends on what you're thinking of as 'mild 3D'. With the right flying skill even some of what I would call fairly hard 3D can be done with the 91HP engine, but it depends on the kind of moves in particular and how snappy you want them to look. I would imagine you can find videos of various 3D being flown on other helis with that engine to get a bit of an idea.

I will add, the Avro is heavier and it will easily handle all the typical F3C aero stuff with a .91 engine, so all the 'big air' moves, no problem, especially if you like them smooth rather than aggressive. Some high pitch moves will show the limits of a .91 engine but we're talking pretty extreme.

[clark-newcombe]

Cheers guys im pretty much on a tight budget at the minute and a new 105 or 120 engine is too high. I just wanna sport fly round getting used to the beast and progress my 3d for a year or so then ill get a big block. Its just that alot of people are saying the rave env is far too heavy compared with most 90's so wanted to make sure its at least flyable with a 91.

I had a os 91hz in my 700n and that had plenty of power, just didnt like the 700n. Felt very odd for a 90.

Cheers Guys

[trillian]

I don't think the Rave is really that heavy. It's tall and looks big but the frames and hardware are not real heavy. I think you'll be somewhere right around 5kg which is pretty much normal for a .90 size heli.

I have the electric version so it's a bit heavier since you always have the weight of the LiPos while flying whereas with nitro you start out with a full tank and then get lighter as you go along or you can choose not to always fill the tank completely if you won't want to.

Mine weighs just over 4kg without the flight packs so add another 1.6kg for takeoff weight with two 5000mah packs (but of course this includes a motor and ESC in that weight figure). So on the nitro version you could subtract 460 grams for the electric motor (Scorpion 4035) and prob another 150 for the ESC, then add back the weight of a .91 engine, pipe, clutch, fan and engine mount, fuel tank etc. The point being, I think the bare frame is probably quite light.

---Just to add, when you get into the .90 size range you're not going to notice, for example, a difference of 300 or 400 grams between one heli and another. You'd definitely notice that kind of weight difference on a .50 size airframe but not as much as most people think. What makes a much bigger difference in 'feel' when flying is the weight of the blades and the hardness of the dampers, the overal stiffness of the frame etc. Put light blades and hard dampers on and even a really porky heli will flip and roll really fast and feel 'light' in the air. It's a very subjective thing and alot of the time our visual impressions of different helis is not the same as the actual reality in terms of specs.

And just to add a bit more I'm really not out to sell anyone on the Rave or any other heli, only to point out that it may not deserve a reputation as being heavy or whatever.

[George J]

Weight wise a Rave is no heavier than any other 90 and considering how big it looks when you pick one up you'll be surprised. I've got a top spec ENV with a Ys120 etc and its simply awesome and is now the first heli I want to take. However, I'm just in the process of putting another ENV together at the moment and will be sticking in an OS91 hzr that I've just bought off maj. The OS engine is being taken out of maj's Avant which is a similar size/weight to the Rave and in the Avant has plenty of power, no it's not 105/120 power but still enough for pretty hard flying/3d.
Beastx, 610's will all work no problem in a Rave, 610's are still a pretty decent servo imo.

[clark-newcombe]

Can't wait to get this thing in the air. It looks huge!!!! Im planning on the beast x with Spin Blades any advice there?

[tonystevens]

Are you using the 120 or 140' setup on the swash (can have either with the rave)

[robertturner]

Hi

I bought tonystevens Rave env which i initially did with some intreperdation as i never thought id ever find a more practical functinal heli than my DFC 700 nitro.Well im more than impressed to say the least in fact im as happy as pig in mud.It flys as straight as a arrow and is far more nimble that she appears(depends on your set up of course).Ive got a OS 91HZ in it at present and it works really well for what i want,but as said a 105/120 will deliver a lot more grunt so collective control is really important with the 91 but she still goes a treat.Im sure you will be very happy with your new heli.I also used the 140' with my vbar and although it took some programing it works awsome,the beast x will be easier because it recognizes 140' and is also a great value for money choice

Hope you enjoy her as much as i do

Regards

Rob

[clark-newcombe]

Thanks all.....Starting to get the bits together to get this baby airborne :-0

[clark-newcombe]

Planning on putting Align 615's on my cyclics. What servo horns are people running? Align plastic or metal?

[George J]

Can't wait to get this thing in the air. It looks huge!!!! Im planning on the beast x with Spin Blades any advice there?

Can only go on experience with Spin blades, I tried a set of 710's on my 700 DFC and hated them. They were slow and 'boggy' most likely due to their width which if I remember rightly was the best bit of 10mm more than an Edge blade for example, probably be good if youre sport flying though. Just my opinion and plenty of people like them.

Planning on putting Align 615's on my cyclics. What servo horns are people running? Align plastic or metal?

615's, good servo. QuickUk metal servo wheels for me personally but then I needed that size/hole spacing for a better vbar set up, metal or plastic will work though. You're running Beastx so go with whatever has the correct spacings for the balls and that you think look good! I'm bit of a badge snob I'm afraid so for me personally wouldn't really want Align everything on my Rave, that's just me though Clark.

[jayfrs]

The only blades i could ever get to fit on any of my raves was spin and radix ( shorter blade root) align used touch the feathering spindle bolts . have a look http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/main-d...lades-fit.html

[George J]

The only blades i could ever get to fit on any of my raves was spin and radix ( shorter blade root) align used touch the feathering spindle bolts . have a look http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/main-d...lades-fit.html

Hi Jay
Edge, Radix, Rotortech, DH, Spin all fit Rave no problem but as you know you just have to careful when folding the blades back on the Rave!
Looking forward to Rave 2 now, see you next weekend.