TDR sale.

[helinut]

TDRs became realtively common now, resale value is not what it used to be, even year ago. People also are more aware of crash costs on these (don't even think about less than 500£ on light-ish crash, they get mostly destroyed in crashes due to light airframe and speed they can achieve).

Thats a bit of a sweeping statement and a bit unfair on the TDR.
Only planted mine properly twice, and both times the bill was less than £200 including blades and a canopy.
each crash is so different on virtually any machine that it's not a valid negative for the TDR.
Seen substantially more cost when a friend stuffed his trex700.
I genuinely hope no one is getting put off buying this on the basis of crashability, as they would be missing out on a great flying heli at a really good price (IMHO)

[George J]

People also are more aware of crash costs on these (don't even think about less than 500£ on light-ish crash

The only way you'd get to £500 with the cost of TDR spares is if it was flown into the ground flat out and you had to re kit most of the heli which wouldn't be that much different to any of the quality machines! A light crash of average parts, shafts, boom, blades etc etc doesn't come to £500 though. When I had my Srimok Faifa for example, I read loads about high parts cost and poor availability with Kasama helis but the reality is quite the opposite, parts being only a bit dearer (but not much when the quality is taken into account) and parts ordered from Denmark would be at your door within 5 days and I think the same thing apply's with TDR's, people get scared off by the unknown but shouldn't as you can get parts and they're not that much more expensive, it's a small price to pay for such a top quality and great flying heli though.

George

[Ross Northcott]

Srimok's have never really had good resale value and that is crazy. Most have never flown one and just will not experience what it is actually like to fly one. It is also the only model I have owned for any length of time which is saying something trust me lol.
They are not over engineered nor have a crazy high parts count, except when compared to a Plastic fantastic lol.

Faifa ben i cant comment on, but the nitro version was a vibration nightmare, would never buy one again, put me off for life and yes they are to much over engineered, until you own one you dont understand the meaning of a shrimok over engineered.

[Ross Northcott]

Thanks for comments , I just find it amazing that this one advert has attracted so many hits ,that shows there's still an big interest in these models .
Ok so you can buy one off the shelf but that comes at a cost ( another £400 ) , parts are delivered in approx 4days and are always in stock , is any big heli cheap to crash?
Having seen one flown last year I just had to get one , it always impresses me on what it can do at low rpm and how long it flys for.
Plan A was to sell off three models ( TDR , Trex500 , Gaui X5 ) to make way for my new project , leaving me with just 3 kasamas and one other , looks like I better think of a plan B !!!
See you tomorrow G.

Plan b is to sell me the x5 Paul?

[swale]

Faifa ben i cant comment on, but the nitro version was a vibration nightmare, would never buy one again, put me off for life and yes they are to much over engineered, until you own one you dont understand the meaning of a shrimok over engineered.

Lol we agree on this one :-)

[swale]

Mind u the dune is nice expesive with tbe right gear but nice...but once you put canopy on....oh dear =D

[George J]

Srimoks probably are over engineered, Faifa is still one of the nicest heli's around though but TDRs however have to be one of the simplest high end heli's you can buy.

George

[dentman]

It was just my observation that started this thread in an attempt to understand why this and only this for sale ad has acheived sooooo many hits.

i conclude:
its still a popular current model that many would love to own ,its for sale at a good price ( wont take less ) no one buys a model to crash but parts price and availability could put some off , but now with not many of us regually flying perhaps not the right time for someone to take the plunge.

KASAMA ..... I own THREE , I'm not sponsored by them , so why i have I invested heavily in that brand ....simple because they fly superb , have i been lucky then? no ....took me hours to understand what can throw these models off, They are a strange get them going well and leave it change nothing and you'll be reward by its flight performance , get vibs or a wobble and like me you can spend hours to find the cure.
Faifa , N are beautiful , dune underneath is no different , canopy however!!! I wish they'd stuck with the prototype Faifa style one.

[Guest]

Never had a problem with my Srimoks other than when I stuffed a YS120 in my EcoII, that was an interesting flight. Faifa is so good in the air. We are lucky in Norfolk prob had 10 Srimoks between 3 of us at one time and you wouldn't find more concentrated knowledge on them.

TDR I'd take it off sale and carry on flying it. It's the wrong time of year too sell and it's too cheap. Not just your TDR most things right now are the same. Give it a few months market will come back.

MJ

[Jamin_00]

Faifa ben i cant comment on, but the nitro version was a vibration nightmare, would never buy one again, put me off for life and yes they are to much over engineered, until you own one you dont understand the meaning of a shrimok over engineered.

I should have made that point clear I was only talking about the Faifa as I have never had a N Ross

I thought the Vibe issues were well sorted ages ago but Im diverting here. I dont read many threads regarding any nitros at all nowadays

[Mike Sanders]

If I could have any helicopter in the world it would be a TDR. I fly one on Phoenix. My flying ability (lack of) is a limiting factor. My pension (paucity of) is a prohibiting factor. I will stick with what I have now, for the foreseeable future. Maybe one day........

[AcidDrink]

Re: TDR sale.

The only way you'd get to £500 with the cost of TDR spares is if it was flown into the ground flat out and you had to re kit most of the heli which wouldn't be that much different to any of the quality machines! A light crash of average parts, shafts, boom, blades etc etc doesn't come to £500 though

George

Your TDR must be crashing different than mine.
My last crash cost was about 950 gbp, I did not fly it flat into the ground, link gave up and it had fallen from the sky upright, throttle held, about 20 feet down.

Damaging just canopy, blades and main shaft/grips will cost over 200, that's a light crash, a tip over. You are almost guaranteed to break bottom frames too.
It's no different than any other big heli, just add about 25% on top.

Personally I don't really care much about crash costs, but other people might. I agree that TDR is worth every money spent on it, if someone thinks about crash ability when buying a TDR, I'd recommend different brand.

[Guest]

You need to read in to individual crash costs a little. If your keen on spares pricing just compare kit items to a similar product. When you start factoring in blades even canopies to a degree it skews the numbers. TDR spares although luckily over 2 years I didn't need any seemed reasonable to me when I looked once. £950 I'm sure isn't just the airframe parts, if it is then I'm surprised.

MJ

[George J]

Your TDR must be crashing different than mine.
My last crash cost was about 950 gbp, I did not fly it flat into the ground, link gave up and it had fallen from the sky upright, throttle held, about 20 feet down.

Damaging just canopy, blades and main shaft/grips will cost over 200, that's a light crash, a tip over. You are almost guaranteed to break bottom frames too.
It's no different than any other big heli, just add about 25% on top.

Personally I don't really care much about crash costs, but other people might. I agree that TDR is worth every money spent on it, if someone thinks about crash ability when buying a TDR, I'd recommend different brand.

Actually Michal you're right, who cares about the crash cost, I don't and if it's a real issue don't buy any quality 90 size heli, a totalled Trex 700 ain't a cheap day out either!! :-)

Right, car is packed i'm off flying all afternoon.

George

[jimmyhorns]

It was just my observation that started this thread in an attempt to understand why this and only this for sale ad has acheived sooooo many hits.

Probably because people, like me, were curious and wanted to take a look. Thats the reason I look at most posts on here, including the second hand section.

On a couple of occasions I have clicked the post, to find a gem hidden at the bottom of the post that isnt obvious from the title.

Its only 1000 hits, 'small clearance reduced further' is up to 2000