Going to buy the MCPX-BL

[5hane]

this is what you need: Q-LP-0036 Quantum XT-60 Female To JST Adapter 20awg Silicone 100mm Model Helicopters

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Thank god I asked. Thanks yet again James

[myxiplx]

Huh, say what? That lead won't fit either the batteries or the charger?

These are the ports on that charger (the image is straight from the website linked to)


It's got standard banana plugs, plus JST-XH balance ports.

OP, the cable you linked to uses a JST plug, but that's a different connector to JST-XH, and won't connect directly to that charger. The adaptor cable above also doesn't fit, just look at the ends.

The easiest thing for you to buy would be the micro paraboard I linked earlier in the thread, it will plug straight into that charger and it includes fuses to protect your packs.
Micro Paraboard JST-PH / E-Flite UMX 6 x 2S 130X Etc Balance Board [UMXPARABOARD]

[5hane]

Huh, say what? That lead won't fit either the batteries or the charger?

These are the ports on that charger (the image is straight from the website linked to)
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It's got standard banana plugs, plus JST-XH balance ports.

OP, the cable you linked to uses a JST plug, but that's a different connector to JST-XH, and won't connect directly to that charger. The adaptor cable above also doesn't fit, just look at the ends.

The easiest thing for you to buy would be the micro paraboard I linked earlier in the thread, it will plug straight into that charger and it includes fuses to protect your packs.
Micro Paraboard JST-PH / E-Flite UMX 6 x 2S 130X Etc Balance Board [UMXPARABOARD]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]82114[/ATTACH]

Hi. I'm sorry, I am totally confused now. I already double checked with someone before I made my main purchases that everything was correct, but now it's not?
This is the first time I have been told I need whatever that item is you have shown me. <edit > sorry, I must have missed the earlier link.
Please forgive my frustration, I just don't know what I've bought that is wrong; was it the banana plugless parallel lead or the cable I ordered at 2am last night? Or are both wrong?

[philipjdall]

Shane, buying the wrong thing is all part of starting out - so don't let it get to you!

If you're looking to charge MSRX packs with your new charger then you will need the lead you posted earlier. But that comes with a red JST plug that won't plug into your charger - either get an adapter or snip it off and solder on some 4mm male bullets.

To to charge the mcpx 2s packs you will need the paraboard mentioned above.

Phil

[tomatwalden]

Hi. I'm sorry, I am totally confused now. I already double checked with someone before I made my main purchase that everything was the correct, but now it's not?
This is the first time I have been told I need whatever that item is you have shown me.
Please forgive my frustration, I just don't know what I've bought that is wrong; was it the banana plugless parallel lead or the cable I ordered at 2am last night? Or are both wrong?

ok ... so hopefully to remove the confusion. The charger has two types of ports - the BALANCE ports (JST-XH) and the main power ports (BANANA)

The parallel board for the 2S will plug straight in. The balance plug is JST-XH and the power plug is BANANA - all's good!

The parallel board for the 1S however has a JST (not JST-XH!) for the power connection rather than BANANA. The alternative board that myxiplx linked to does however have the correct combo of JST-XH and BANANA.

HOWEVER, he charger comes with cables that convert BANANA to XT-60. So the adapter cable that James_2k linked will convert XT-60 to JST allowing the 1S board you've bought to connect.

So you have a choice ...

1. Buy the JST <-> XT60 adapter and use the 1S board you've purchased.
2. Buy the alternative 1S board and no need for an adapter.

It's all very confusing! So apologies, I didn't spot that originally, but as you can see it's not always simple and sometimes the web adverts aren't very clear! Either way, you're good to go with maybe a few quid extra.

for reference ...

JST : http://hangar18hobbies.com/images/connectors/jst.jpg [power connection ]
JST-XH : http://www.3dxhobbies.com/images/pro...20jst%20xh.jpg [ balance connection ]
Banana : http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j0...s-Set-Four.jpg [ power connection ]
XT-60 : http://www.rc-electronic.com/images/.../A85066_01.jpg [ power connection ]

Final image which hopefully makes it clear how the board plugs into both the POWER and BALANCE ports on the charger. Hence why the 1S board you've purchased with a JST power connector will either need the converter cable, or you could replace with the board suggested by myxiplx

[5hane]

Shane, buying the wrong thing is all part of starting out - so don't let it get to you!

If you're looking to charge MSRX packs with your new charger then you will need the lead you posted earlier. But that comes with a red JST plug that won't plug into your charger - either get an adapter or snip it off and solder on some 4mm male bullets.

To to charge the mcpx 2s packs you will need the paraboard mentioned above.

Phil

Ta, I think im ok now. I already have the correct 2s parallel lead ordered.

[5hane]

ok ... so hopefully to remove the confusion. The charger has two types of ports - the BALANCE ports (JST-XH) and the main power ports (BANANA)

The parallel board for the 2S will plug straight in. The balance plug is JST-XH and the power plug is BANANA - all's good!

The parallel board for the 1S however has a JST (not JST-XH!) for the power connection rather than BANANA. The alternative board that myxiplx linked to does however have the correct combo of JST-XH and BANANA.

HOWEVER, he charger comes with cables that convert BANANA to XT-60. So the adapter cable that James_2k linked will convert XT-60 to JST allowing the 1S board you've bought to connect.

So you have a choice ...

1. Buy the JST <-> XT60 adapter and use the 1S board you've purchased.
2. Buy the alternative 1S board and no need for an adapter.

It's all very confusing! So apologies, I didn't spot that originally, but as you can see it's not always simple and sometimes the web adverts aren't very clear! Either way, you're good to go with maybe a few quid extra.

for reference ...

JST : http://hangar18hobbies.com/images/connectors/jst.jpg [power connection ]
JST-XH : http://www.3dxhobbies.com/images/pro...20jst%20xh.jpg [ balance connection ]
Banana : http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j0...s-Set-Four.jpg [ power connection ]
XT-60 : http://www.rc-electronic.com/images/.../A85066_01.jpg [ power connection ]

Your all trying to help, so it's all good
Thank you for simplifying things and for the image references.

Ok, I already placed the order for the XT60 that James suggested at 2am, so I will stick with that as it will work then.
(James, I have faith in you, I was just thrown by the comment that it wouldn't fit )

I guess at least I am learning

Can I just ask; when you say "parallel board" or "1s board", are you also referring to parallel lead? I am sure you but I just want to be certain.

[james_2k]

oh man, so much confusion, not being helped by certain people cough-myxiplx-cough


anyway, if you bought
2 Pin 6 x Pico Plug Charging Set Eflite compatible. (UK Warehouse)
and
Q-LP-0036 Quantum XT-60 Female To JST Adapter 20awg Silicone 100mm Model Helicopters


then you are set for your msrx batteries, you use the cable that comes with the charger, as tom said.

[tomatwalden]

To be fair, the suggestion of a 1S board that didn't require an XT60 to JST adapter for the power connection was a fairly sound one. Having a 1S parallel board with banana plugs that goes straight into the charger reduces the number of electrical connections and arguably increases efficiency, removes risk and complication. But both should work.

[myxiplx]

oh man, so much confusion, not being helped by certain people cough-myxiplx-cough

Whoops! Seems I missed the comments about the MSRX, I thought we were just talking about the mCPX BL. And I didn't see any adaptor cables listed for that charger which was why I didn't think the XT-60 would fit.

Sorry for the confusion 5hane :-) Despite the chaos I think you're in good hands here :-D

And just to be clear, the parallel board I linked is for charging mCPX BL batteries which are 2S packs.

[james_2k]

the board idea isn't bad, just the fact it was said the one i linked wouldn't work. don't be going talking about things like risk and such now though, that's all we need and any efficiency drop will not even be measurable im sure. and its hardly complicated, its one connection thatr you can leave attatched to the rest of it.

and later if he so desired he could cut ff the connector and solder. but i like the flexibility which comes with having multiple leads with the same connector on.

[5hane]

I feel humbled to be getting help from the pro's. God knows how I'd get there I am on my own!

The stuff from Hobby king has arrived. Now waiting for the XT60, 1st class from Model Helicopters.

[james_2k]

No where near pro man. Just know this as I had to go through it myself not long ago

it's nice when stuff starts arriving!!

[myxiplx]

Yup, we've all been there. I only started two years ago and in the process of learning ordered a bunch of stuff with the wrong wires, or wrong connectors.

On the plus side I've got all the bits I could possibly need now

[5hane]

On your 2S batteries for the mCPX BL you will see the leads actually have 3 wires. For convenience on those little packs they just have a single lead that works for everything

So most likely pointing out the obvious: Even though it's already been said before that 2s batteries for the MCPX-BL won't need balancing so much because of their low capacity, they will however still balance anyway because of that third wire.
Is there a reason why other 2s packs and above don't have the 3 wires as standard thus saving time using a separate balancing cable?