When is it good time to attempt the Cpx after Msrx?? What should I be able to do??

[Karlo]

Hi all,

not been on for a while as been busy with work etc..

I was wondering when is it a good time to try the Cpx (cp) ??

what skills should I have gained with the Msrx before attempting the Cpx??

[tomatwalden]

Orientations! Tail in, nose in, left and right hovers.

To to be honest, there's no rules, but the basic upright orientations are a good juncture.

[flynth]

You need to learn everything again, so just go for it

[450man]

A lot of people just start out with the MCPX and do OK so there isn't any rules.

I started with a Blade 120 SR and went to an MCPX and it felt like I was starting all over again. The MCPX is much more sensitive so the better you can fly the MSRX the less time it will take to get to grips with the MCPX.

However... flying the MCPX is more tricky than flying something bigger like a 450 or 500. If you can possibly afford to go to something bigger and can get some help at a club or from someone experienced then IMO that is generally a better route but crashes will cost more. It is a personal thing. Crashes with an MCPX will cost a lot less and be easier to fix but you may have a lot more of them. However... if you can fly an MCPX then you can certainly fly something bigger so it is a good way to go.

If you fancy going for the MCPX then they aren't expensive... get one, go slowly and carefully and treat it as if you are starting out all over again and I am sure you will be fine. Remember to set up your transmitter with some D/R / Expo to make it less sensitive at first and also remember that it is MUCH more powerful and with higher head speed than the MSRX so it can do more damage to furniture, TVs, you etc.

Enjoy!

[crash-test-tomo]

I think i would be tempted to look at the 130x, it isnt quite as crash friendly as the mcpx but it performs so much better! Standard tail boom on the mcpx can only be described as poor, put a solid one in and it will never break! The 130x is an awesome little heli, feels twice as stable so its probably harder to crash! If it does go in a couple of times you will notice the tail gears (theres 4) will probably need changing but they cost pennies anyway! I could already fly cp when i bought my first 130 but then i tried a friends mcpx bl and felt like i had forgotten everything i knew!!

[PeteStewardson]

I think i would be tempted to look at the 130x, it isnt quite as crash friendly as the mcpx but it performs so much better! Standard tail boom on the mcpx can only be described as poor, put a solid one in and it will never break! The 130x is an awesome little heli, feels twice as stable so its probably harder to crash! If it does go in a couple of times you will notice the tail gears (theres 4) will probably need changing but they cost pennies anyway! I could already fly cp when i bought my first 130 but then i tried a friends mcpx bl and felt like i had forgotten everything i knew!!

I'd disagree with that. The 130x really isn't a beginner heli, and if you crash it often is more likely to be a source of severe frustration trying to get it to fly properly again in my experience.

I agree it's an awesome heli to fly, and I'm considering buying another one ( stupidly after selling a huge batch of spares for peanuts ) but it's not crash friendly. The MCPx however you can crash and most of the time pick it back up and fly. OK it does break, and it's small, but normally easy to fix in most cases. I've had to send mine off as it's drifting backwards and piros madly when you try and flip it inverted but normally it's just pick up and fly again. The 130x I found suffered major vibes after a couple of crashes and I could never get it to fly right after that.

[Karlo]

Thanks all . I went for it and tried my new 'destroyer of furniture' (nano Cpx) and have posted thread.

loving this new hobby and wished I kept at it a decade ago. Lol

[gobby550x]

However... flying the MCPX is more tricky than flying something bigger like a 450 or 500. If you can possibly afford to go to something bigger and can get some help at a club or from someone experienced then IMO that is generally a better route but crashes will cost more.

This is rock solid advice which I would take seriously - have done exactly this, MCPX is to twitchy to learn on and will lead to frustration.

I bought used Trex 500 and joined a club and it is far better than when trying to learn with my MCPX in the garden, get one to learn more advanced moves on as you don't want to be trying those on a big heli as it will cost when it hits the deck.

Buddy lead is a god send as it will save a fortune and you will learn much quicker.

[crash-test-tomo]

I admit the 130x does take abit of maintaining to keep it flying well but it is worth the fiddling with! One of my friends bought a 450, flew it twice and realised he had bitten off more than he could chew so bought an mcpx bl and destroyed it within about 5 flights, broke landing skids everytime he flew it, somehow burnt out a tail motor, did 2 canopies.. The list goes on! I flew the heli before he did and found it a real handful, whereas my 130x which i bought at around the same time is still going strong! The only bad things i.can.say about it is that yes the tail gears are delicate and fiddly to replace and that cleaning jittery servos has become a little annoying!

I started with a cheap 4 channel heli, got to the stage that i thought i was ready for cp and so bought an mcpx v2 which il be honest at the time i loved! However it was a much steeper learning curve than i expected.. If i could take my time again i wouldnt waste the money on an mcpx i would buy a simulator until i felt more confident and then go for the 130 as mine has taught me so much more than the mcpx ever did!
Id be very interested to know if blade are planning a revamped version as they have done with most of the range at some point, no questions asked i would be buying one!
All that said dude it really is your own choice, some people take to it quicker than others, many quicker than i did!
The main decider for me was that the mcpx gets really small really quickly and most of my crashes were because i just couldnt see the thing properly! Lol
Hope that is of some use

[PeteStewardson]

I'm not convinced the MCPx is more difficult to fly at all. Yes it's more difficult to hover and keep in exactly the same place, but the controls are the same and once flying I'd say it's not that much different to a 450 in a lot of ways.

If you can afford to get lessons ( something I very much recommend as a very good way to make progress, it's very different to just buddying a clubmate ) or afford to crash a bigger heli, and have somewhere to fly the bigger heli, then yes it's a great help as a bigger heli can be more docile. However you can't beat a micro like the MCPx for being able to make progress IMO. In a short space of time it's got me hovering side on much more confidently. Yes it moves about a bit and you're constantly working the sticks, but that's the point, it builds the connections you need to get to a point where you can do it without thinking.

I'm self taught to fly mostly, I've had a few lessons at Flyin' Fish but otherwise everything has been learning on my own and flying alone. My progress is all down to flying something cheap to fix, so I wasn't worried about getting it wrong. The micros give you that, plus no fear of killing yourself when you plough it into yourself trying something new.

[tomatwalden]

Enjoy the nano cpx! I personally think it flies more naturally than the mcpx. Fiddly to work on though and the motor is a weak point. Perhaps look at a 450 size next! :-)

[Karlo]

Lol, Tom you have already tempted me to look for my next upgrade!!!!!!!

seems I have reach the boundaries for indoor flying with these models I have.........not saying skills here by the way just models. Lol

as I will have to look for a public park etc...need to read up on insurance etc..

[crash-test-tomo]

If you want to go a little bigger dude iv just bought a 300x im quite impressed with! As i found out its a risk buying 2nd hand but you can pick them up pretty cheap now that the 300cfx is out, then you can always keep the ar7200bx when you decide to upgrade again

[PeteStewardson]

Lol, Tom you have already tempted me to look for my next upgrade!!!!!!!

seems I have reach the boundaries for indoor flying with these models I have.........not saying skills here by the way just models. Lol

as I will have to look for a public park etc...need to read up on insurance etc..

I would not take anything larger than a 130x to a park these days. It's not worth the risk. I had someone think it was funny to set his dog on my TT360 ( 450 sized but with 360mm blades. ) in my local park. It's just too risky, especially on your own without a spotter.

[Euclid]

Karlo. I went from a mSRx to a nano to a 130x. Both steps were a quantum leap in power but manageable with little more skills than hovering in all directions. I guess you are at that stage now. The 130 is sending me up the wall with its maintenance requirements. It eats the D-gear for breakfast (the gear is more suicidal than sacrificial), my A and B gears are now all metal so changing those is now a thing of the past and I think it's now asking for its tail bearings to be changed. Because of the maintenance issues (apart from which it's great) I wouldn't advise it but I don't know what to suggest instead. Just to get myself flying with something a little bigger I've gone back to SR and acquired a 200 SRX which is getting me in the air when I want to fly and not when it deems itself serviceable.