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  • Why is my tail still wagging ????

    OK
    I crashed the trex 500 and have now rebuild it.
    the tail was really wagging and I moved the ball on the rudder servo arm to the nearest hole to the centre.
    it is still wagging but less.
    I changed the giro settings in head hold mode between 0 and 100 and I cannot get rid of the wag.
    tail slider movement is super smooth, no binding.
    changes in this build. New dfc head in stead of the efl head and kbdd tail blade in stead of the aligh ones.
    can it be the tail blades?
    Goblin 630. Outrage cyclic. BLS 276 tail. Scorpion HK3 4035-530 CC EDGE120 HV .mini vbar
    Goblin 500. Mini vbar
    Align Trex 500 pro DFC. Mini vbar
    Align Trex 450 Pro DFC. Fubar

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  • #2
    Have your tried the original tail blades? Or some different ones?
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    • #3
      Not. Yet. Got broken in the crash.
      might but a pair to rule it out, or hopefully fix
      Goblin 630. Outrage cyclic. BLS 276 tail. Scorpion HK3 4035-530 CC EDGE120 HV .mini vbar
      Goblin 500. Mini vbar
      Align Trex 500 pro DFC. Mini vbar
      Align Trex 450 Pro DFC. Fubar

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      • #4
        when you crashed did you have to re-build the tail.

        Did you setup the tail so that it holds in non heading hold before switching to heading hold, mind you'll have to set it up flighting into the wind and adjust the tail rob lenght till it holds, then switch to heading hold

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        • #5
          Very carefully check the plastic 90 degree arm that links the servo push rod to the tail slider assembly. Have seen a couple of original ones that have a crack in them by the mounting hole (one was brand new and had not been fitted!!) which opens up when the servo tries to move and causes all sorts of weird tail problems. If it is broken it might be worth considering upgrading to the much better CNC 'twin drive' version if you have not done so already.

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          • #6
            OK.
            no cracks in the servo arm.
            I put aligh tail blades on.
            pretty well set up in rate mode.
            still wagging, not ahuge wag but annoying
            Goblin 630. Outrage cyclic. BLS 276 tail. Scorpion HK3 4035-530 CC EDGE120 HV .mini vbar
            Goblin 500. Mini vbar
            Align Trex 500 pro DFC. Mini vbar
            Align Trex 450 Pro DFC. Fubar

            Spektrum DX9

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            • #7
              Are you sure your transmitter is actually adjusting the gyro gain?
              You say "I changed the giro settings in head hold mode between 0 and 100" - when set to 0% there should be no gyro function, so the heli should be a pig to fly - did you find that?
              Wiggle the tail on the ground and watch the tail blades follow the wiggle, then set gain to zero - the blades should stop responding to the wiggle - if not, your TX is not adjusting the gain.


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              • #8
                Yes
                on low gain, massive left right movement, on very high gail, very short very fast left right.
                i just cannot get the tail to be solid.
                at 50% flies fine, just still a bit of wag.
                when pumping pitch hard up down, the tail holds fine, does not blow out at all, just that wagggggg
                Goblin 630. Outrage cyclic. BLS 276 tail. Scorpion HK3 4035-530 CC EDGE120 HV .mini vbar
                Goblin 500. Mini vbar
                Align Trex 500 pro DFC. Mini vbar
                Align Trex 450 Pro DFC. Fubar

                Spektrum DX9

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                • #9
                  Re: Why is my tail still wagging ????

                  Originally posted by jjjjdup View Post
                  Yes
                  on low gain, massive left right movement, on very high gail, very short very fast left right.
                  i just cannot get the tail to be solid.
                  at 50% flies fine, just still a bit of wag.
                  when pumping pitch hard up down, the tail holds fine, does not blow out at all, just that wagggggg
                  Its happy :-)

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                  • #10
                    I'm not
                    Goblin 630. Outrage cyclic. BLS 276 tail. Scorpion HK3 4035-530 CC EDGE120 HV .mini vbar
                    Goblin 500. Mini vbar
                    Align Trex 500 pro DFC. Mini vbar
                    Align Trex 450 Pro DFC. Fubar

                    Spektrum DX9

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                    • #11
                      More changes. Still wagging. I want to now try a different servo.
                      Any recommendations.
                      Needs to be the same size as the one for the 500 pro efl. I think it's a align ds520.
                      Goblin 630. Outrage cyclic. BLS 276 tail. Scorpion HK3 4035-530 CC EDGE120 HV .mini vbar
                      Goblin 500. Mini vbar
                      Align Trex 500 pro DFC. Mini vbar
                      Align Trex 450 Pro DFC. Fubar

                      Spektrum DX9

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                      • #12
                        Why is my tail still wagging ????

                        Have you double checked your servo frequency on the flight controller?

                        On my beastx I accidentally changed the servo frequency when I was trying to change it to sport mode and it made it nod a little bit.

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                        • #13
                          Will check tomorrow. I also ordered a mks mini tail servo as the ds520 has had 3 crashes. New gears of course.
                          Goblin 630. Outrage cyclic. BLS 276 tail. Scorpion HK3 4035-530 CC EDGE120 HV .mini vbar
                          Goblin 500. Mini vbar
                          Align Trex 500 pro DFC. Mini vbar
                          Align Trex 450 Pro DFC. Fubar

                          Spektrum DX9

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                          • #14
                            My wag is now gone.
                            I spoke to someone at the club who had a similar problem and did the following which worked for me
                            I bought a complete tail section , torque tube unit meaning the housing at the back, gears tail pitch slider etc. H50193
                            got it for £45 on ebay, someone stripped a new 500 and sold the parts.
                            I fitted it and the wag was gone!
                            not saying it will cure yours, but it did work for me.
                            good luck, I do hope you get your sorted
                            Goblin 630. Outrage cyclic. BLS 276 tail. Scorpion HK3 4035-530 CC EDGE120 HV .mini vbar
                            Goblin 500. Mini vbar
                            Align Trex 500 pro DFC. Mini vbar
                            Align Trex 450 Pro DFC. Fubar

                            Spektrum DX9

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                            • #15
                              Oh, by the way, I still have the original servo and have not fitted the MKS as it did not turn up. So a nice £50 saving for me.
                              Goblin 630. Outrage cyclic. BLS 276 tail. Scorpion HK3 4035-530 CC EDGE120 HV .mini vbar
                              Goblin 500. Mini vbar
                              Align Trex 500 pro DFC. Mini vbar
                              Align Trex 450 Pro DFC. Fubar

                              Spektrum DX9

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