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  • Training gear? Who needs it?? :)

    So, a few weeks back, I smashed my Trex 450... nicely. It had traing gear. Gear got smashed up bad. So, the replacement parts arrived and I fixed the heli.

    But, no training gear, so I thought, what the hell!

    I'm not Trex-ing 450-ing without training gear! And it's great!

    Shots show some pretty ugly wireing in the back though....
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    Trex 500CF - GY401 with S9254, HS-5245MGs, Torque Tube, AR7000..
    Blade CX2 - With AR6100
    Spectrum DX7 Tx (2.4Ghz), Phoenix Sim (1.05c)
    Based in Brisbane , Australia!
    Past helis: Lama V4, Raptor 50, Trex450SE, Gaui EP550

  • #2
    I have noticed something. When you're on the ground, about to take off, I tend to have to add right cyclic as we lift off, or else the helicopter tends to drift to the left as it takes off.

    I'm thinking this has something to do with the tail rotor and the main rotor causing some effect that pushes the helicopter?
    Trex 500CF - GY401 with S9254, HS-5245MGs, Torque Tube, AR7000..
    Blade CX2 - With AR6100
    Spectrum DX7 Tx (2.4Ghz), Phoenix Sim (1.05c)
    Based in Brisbane , Australia!
    Past helis: Lama V4, Raptor 50, Trex450SE, Gaui EP550

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    • #3
      Very well done,i have found training gears to be a help but also a hindrance..

      I remember how good it felt when i ditched mine from my first heli,a Hirobo Shuttle


      Well done again

      All helis seem to drift left a bit,its just an effect of the rotors,you will quickly come to not even noticing it

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cralis View Post
        I'm thinking this has something to do with the tail rotor and the main rotor causing some effect that pushes the helicopter?
        You're spot on - its that little vertical fan at the back thats blowing the heli to one side. You'll notice, too, that when you get a perfectly stable hover that the main rotor is tilted slightly, too. Same thing.
        I've got a perfect flying record - I've not left one up there yet!

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        • #5
          Thanks...
          Yeah, removing them is great. But as soon as the heli isn't basically directly tail in to me, I start to panic a bit. I can do it OK on the sim, but with the real one, I get too scared. So the training gear will be used when I start sides hovering.

          As with the drift, I'm basically taking off with some right cyclic as standard practise. Seems OK.
          Trex 500CF - GY401 with S9254, HS-5245MGs, Torque Tube, AR7000..
          Blade CX2 - With AR6100
          Spectrum DX7 Tx (2.4Ghz), Phoenix Sim (1.05c)
          Based in Brisbane , Australia!
          Past helis: Lama V4, Raptor 50, Trex450SE, Gaui EP550

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Philimon View Post
            You'll notice, too, that when you get a perfectly stable hover ....
            That possible?????
            Trex 500CF - GY401 with S9254, HS-5245MGs, Torque Tube, AR7000..
            Blade CX2 - With AR6100
            Spectrum DX7 Tx (2.4Ghz), Phoenix Sim (1.05c)
            Based in Brisbane , Australia!
            Past helis: Lama V4, Raptor 50, Trex450SE, Gaui EP550

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            • #7
              Well done mate, I learned the expensive way and never used to training skids, when you start to panic try and remember tail towards you and centre up.
              Raptor 50 V3 Titan
              OS 50 hyper-MP2 pipe-9252-401 & 9254-Rev Max-Radix600-Radix 95- Kasama Head

              Trex 600N Pro R.I.P
              OS 50 Hyper-MP5-9451-611 & 9256-RevLock 20-CycLock-Radix600-Align Tail Blades

              Knight 3D
              OS 50 Hyper-MP5 Pipe-9255-Logictech 6100-Rev Lock 20-Radix600-Radix 95

              Trex SEV2
              4S TP 2000-Medusa 28-40-3400 Jazz 40-6-18-GY401 & 9650-HS65MG

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              • #8
                Thanks Nutz. Yeah, I try that. I also try and get it down for my own personal safty, and if it's me or the heli, the helis going in the trees! Or else, landing on it's side.

                As soon as the tail isn't pointing at me, I try and stablise first, as in, bring it into a hover, and when I've nearly gained control, I try swing the tail towards me. That's worked - so far.

                I made an absolute pigs ear of my safty this morning. Second battery, I started the TX, throttle down, LOCK. Plugged in the heli battery. Watched Gyro initialise. Placed heli flat. On TX, I switched to STD mode, and then back to HH mode to make sure the gyro doesn't try swing the heli.

                Stood back, LOCK off, and throttle up. Waited for the blades to get to speed at 1/5 throttle (ESC set to spin up slowly), then more throttle to go up, and as it lifted, the heli seemed to drift and swing....

                Full throttle down (-2 degrees at 0%), as ther heli wasn't high.

                What I had forgotten to do was - pull the damn aerial out!
                Trex 500CF - GY401 with S9254, HS-5245MGs, Torque Tube, AR7000..
                Blade CX2 - With AR6100
                Spectrum DX7 Tx (2.4Ghz), Phoenix Sim (1.05c)
                Based in Brisbane , Australia!
                Past helis: Lama V4, Raptor 50, Trex450SE, Gaui EP550

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cralis View Post
                  What I had forgotten to do was - pull the damn aerial out!
                  Yes, this is a pain for me to as I use Spektrum and 35MHz, I think it has only happend on 2 occasions for me.

                  Don't get suckered into having the aerial half out when flying in a back gardens or close proximity, I got suckered into doing that and it is not good, always have the aerial fully out.
                  Raptor 50 V3 Titan
                  OS 50 hyper-MP2 pipe-9252-401 & 9254-Rev Max-Radix600-Radix 95- Kasama Head

                  Trex 600N Pro R.I.P
                  OS 50 Hyper-MP5-9451-611 & 9256-RevLock 20-CycLock-Radix600-Align Tail Blades

                  Knight 3D
                  OS 50 Hyper-MP5 Pipe-9255-Logictech 6100-Rev Lock 20-Radix600-Radix 95

                  Trex SEV2
                  4S TP 2000-Medusa 28-40-3400 Jazz 40-6-18-GY401 & 9650-HS65MG

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                  • #10
                    yuo need room to practise the nose and side in stuff.
                    down the park and in the field I could fly my heli arround and nose in hover etc no problem.
                    It took a lot more hours before I got happy to do slow pirrouette hovers in my garden close to obsticles.

                    You need enough room to blip the collective (to get a bit more height) and spin round tail in to recover. Trouble is the heli sets off a long way when you blip the collective if it is not level!
                    www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
                    600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
                    trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
                    "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
                    MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

                    Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nutz View Post
                      Don't get suckered into having the aerial half out when flying in a back gardens or close proximity, I got suckered into doing that and it is not good, always have the aerial fully out.
                      Guity as charged, but I will change my ways. Never thought it would be a problem in a small garden.

                      Thanks.
                      Trex 500CF - GY401 with S9254, HS-5245MGs, Torque Tube, AR7000..
                      Blade CX2 - With AR6100
                      Spectrum DX7 Tx (2.4Ghz), Phoenix Sim (1.05c)
                      Based in Brisbane , Australia!
                      Past helis: Lama V4, Raptor 50, Trex450SE, Gaui EP550

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                      • #12
                        When the motor is running the RX has a hard time filtering the noise form the motor, the stronger signal the RX gets form the TX the better it will be, even at a few feet it can make the difference.
                        Raptor 50 V3 Titan
                        OS 50 hyper-MP2 pipe-9252-401 & 9254-Rev Max-Radix600-Radix 95- Kasama Head

                        Trex 600N Pro R.I.P
                        OS 50 Hyper-MP5-9451-611 & 9256-RevLock 20-CycLock-Radix600-Align Tail Blades

                        Knight 3D
                        OS 50 Hyper-MP5 Pipe-9255-Logictech 6100-Rev Lock 20-Radix600-Radix 95

                        Trex SEV2
                        4S TP 2000-Medusa 28-40-3400 Jazz 40-6-18-GY401 & 9650-HS65MG

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                        • #13
                          Hope it dont sound as if im being picky but are the gyro wires and tail servo wires secure? If not bunch them up and use a cable tie.
                          T Rex 600CF 2xTP4500, 2xTP5000,

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                          • #14
                            Thanks Highlander. Yeah, they really need some tightening back there. Will get that sorted this week.
                            Trex 500CF - GY401 with S9254, HS-5245MGs, Torque Tube, AR7000..
                            Blade CX2 - With AR6100
                            Spectrum DX7 Tx (2.4Ghz), Phoenix Sim (1.05c)
                            Based in Brisbane , Australia!
                            Past helis: Lama V4, Raptor 50, Trex450SE, Gaui EP550

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