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    hi,i have a 550DFC, 600mx motor 11T pinion,talon 90.i run a 100% flat throttle and it just seems a bit gutless! doesn't pull as hard as I thought it would!!
    could I have missed something on the talon 90 setup? it doesn't sound like this one...T-REX 550E DFC test flight 2 - YouTube
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  • #2
    I have one too and was pleasantly surprised on my first test flight as i like a low head speed. You are probably used to flying your lighter 500 with a balistic head speed?
    I got rid of my 500 because it was to quick for me! I like a bigger heli so went for the 550. I think some people on here have changed the pinion to get the head speed up.
    Mine is running at around 2300 in idle up 2 at 95% flat which is plenty for me, but i'm a steady flyer.
    Hope this helps.

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    • #3
      by the sounds of it Kenny is running the 13T pinion ... I see/hear the 12T pinion every week and it doesnt sound like that ...
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      • #4
        I am no expert but isn't the 600 mx motor designed for a 12 cell set up? I believe that it is 510 kv. I presume you have a 6s pack in the 550?
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        • #5
          yes I do miss the snappy feel of the 500 mate
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          • #6
            Hey Buddy.

            Pop the 12T pinion on it and turn on the governor mode in the Talon, I promise that will liven the 550 up nicely for you.
            I am running the 12T on mine, mainly for the governor to have more overhead, but it also allows a higher head speed and the model comes alive.
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            • #7
              12T it is then mate,BUT i have never setup a governor! wouldn't have a clue where to start......?
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              • #8
                mine is running on 550 blades with 2200 head speed .havent gone mad with it yet but seems it has pleanty of guts.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by brin View Post
                  mine is running on 550 blades with 2200 head speed .havent gone mad with it yet but seems it has pleanty of guts.
                  same running +-11deg pitch and the older 600m motor but plenty for me
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JAG1 View Post
                    12T it is then mate,BUT i have never setup a governor! wouldn't have a clue where to start......?
                    Hello mate.

                    It will give you that bit more head speed easier and as a result a more nimble and edgy model.

                    The Castle govenor is very easy to set up, input the gear ratio, number of cells, motor Kv/pole count and then tell it what head speeds you want. However you will need the castle link to do so.
                    There is some great videos by Castle that help with the setup, but if you get stuck give us a shout.
                    I could send you my Castle settings file if need be so baring the Tx settings everything else will already be setup, just flash them to your ESC.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mike Sanders View Post
                      I am no expert but isn't the 600 mx motor designed for a 12 cell set up? I believe that it is 510 kv. I presume you have a 6s pack in the 550?
                      I believe there are 2 versions of the 600mx a 510kv for 12s and a 1220kv for 6s. One of my mates had this he changed to a talon 90 on his 550 from the original align esc and had to change the pinion to get the performance back.


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                      • #12
                        The 550 600mx motor is 1220KV - different to the one on the larger helis also referred to as a 600mx (bit of a fail on aligns side imo but hey ho)..

                        I am running 2,500hs with a 12T pinion (112T main gear) governed by the Vbar so theres still headroom for more even with a 12T pinion!

                        It has plenty of poke and doesn't bog so can only presume you need to tweak the settings some more..

                        On my ESC I have the PWM set to 9kHz and timing set to 18 degrees.. seems to pull well at that.
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                        • #13
                          Is it possible you haven't set the endpoints on the talon?

                          I run mine ungoverned on a 100/95/93/95/100 throttle curve and it's got loads of go
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                          • #14
                            Hi mate,

                            I am not far from you and can help with the Gov and your 3gx setup if you need. PM me if you need help.

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                            • #15
                              I'm having a bit of trouble finding a 12t to fit my 600mx motor!! I've ordered this one but I'm not sure if it will fit the shaft!

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