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  • Converting 700LE to FBL questions

    My awesome pride and joy 700LE is about to be stripped and rebuilt as a FBL machine. She has nearly 100 flights on her, so new balls and links going on, plus all the bearings will be checked over.

    At the same time, I will be re building her with a shiny new KDE one piece head block, and FBL grips and links. I have the shorter main shaft ready as well.

    Do I need to replace the Aileron arms, and the Elevator arm set, with the ones with a second inner hole in them from the 700e?

    Also, what distance are the balls apart on the servo wheels for FBL?

    Any other tips or help would be great.

    Cheers all, Rob.
    Henseleit TDR V-Bar x2
    SAB Goblin 700 V-Bar
    SAB Black Nitro V-Bar YS91 Tareq SRX
    T-Rex 700e DFC V-Bar
    T-Rex 700N MAJ DFC V-Bar YS91 Tareq SRX
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  • #2
    Did the exact same thing to my LE Rob. Used the short main shaft, Align FBL head, new bell cranks, A arm (bottom part only) and Align servo wheels all using the inner holes.

    Fitting these parts gives the CGY the best chance to work to it's potential - AFR values at the required 50-65% for AIL, ELE and PIT and gains upwards of 75-85% for ELE and AIL.

    Cheers
    Last edited by t-rex pedro; 31-07-2011, 01:33 AM.
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    • #3
      Pedro is 100% correct. I made my LE's into FBL using Align head, short main shaft and then new bellcranks and elev arm. Vbar 5.1.
      Brilliant. Enjoy.
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      • #4
        Thanks guys, mine will be with the Futaba CGY750, so same as Pete's.

        Cheers Rob
        Henseleit TDR V-Bar x2
        SAB Goblin 700 V-Bar
        SAB Black Nitro V-Bar YS91 Tareq SRX
        T-Rex 700e DFC V-Bar
        T-Rex 700N MAJ DFC V-Bar YS91 Tareq SRX
        Synergy N7 V-Bar OS105 HZ-R
        Synergy E7se V-Bar
        Synergy N5c FBL V-Bar
        Gaui NX7 V-Bar YS91 Tareq SRX
        T-Rex 550 E FBL V-Bar
        Gaui NX4 V-Bar
        V-Control

        Proud owner of TWO!! Platinum Stars!

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        • #5
          I used the short part of the 700E A arm but you have to screw the ailoron links in a long way. I have KDE bearing blocks and the swash just clears this on a full neg full cyclic position.
          Goblin 700 comp 3 blade Kyle stacey head and tail, 160 scorpion esc , ultimate motor,MKS. Vbar NEO
          Trex 700 DFC Dominator motor, scorpion . MKS. Vbar NEO
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          • #6
            Also, check to make sure you get the correct length linkage rods from the blade grip to the swash, there are two different lengths 65mm and 71mm, if you are using the shorter main shaft, you need the 700E FL linkage rods.

            Only mention this as one conversion we did, caused about an hours head scratching before we realised we had the wrong rod lengths!!

            Cheers

            Gavin
            Gavin
            • Thunder Tiger Raptor G4 FBL - OS105 HZ-R, Bavarian Demon 3SX, MKS HBL HV Servos, Reactor HVX, Optifuel SLV 25%
            • Thunder Tiger Raptor E720 FBL. Bavarian Demon 3X, (Under Construction)
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            • #7
              use the Align servo wheels the new ones with the two sets of holes these if using futaba / align servos HSP61004 (HN6048AT) <b> NEW TYPE </b> F Servo Horn Set

              I use the outer hole as i like the feel but you can use the inner hole the idea is to use all the servo movment for better resolution, but I belive if using V bar/ futaba/ beast x you may need to use the inner holes to get the right cyclic deflection.

              so in short use
              short mainshaft H70035 700FL Main Shaft
              short links H70066 700EFL Linkage rod(A) Set
              700 E elevator arm on the inner hole (but use the old A arm with the new elevator crank) H70046 Elevator Arm Set
              700 E aileron belcranks <b>HN7034BA</b> Metal Aileron Lever/Black
              align servo wheels. HSP61004 (HN6048AT) <b> NEW TYPE </b> F Servo Horn Set

              Note other shops are available to buy from ;-)


              now a warning !!!! I have used metal servo wheels and every crash (oops) resulted in severe servo damage , not good, I now use the align plastic wheels and these just strip the splines and not kill the servos, maybe 3D gods could strip them in flight ? but you will be ok ;-)

              Oh please check the numbers i have given I am in a rush so just looked them up should be right though !!!!!!

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              have fun x Rachel

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              • #8
                Have done one of my 700s with shortened 700E main shaft, 700E bell cranks and the bottom half of the A frame, As Gavin says 700E pitch links are required, mine is on a BeastX and is simply fantastic. I have all the parts to do the second one and this will be going on very soon
                Rob
                TDR (in progress)
                SAB Goblin 700
                Vibe 90SG Vibe 500E
                Trex 700 VBar, Trex 700 BeastX
                Trex 600FBL, Trex 600NP, Trex 450Pro
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