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    Hi people
    can you help me sort this disagreament out at our field. I am the only one there flying spektrum everyone else is using Futaba, and i have just set up my Trex 600 with align rce gov & Dx7 handset. I have used the aux2 switch and travel adjust to change the head speed, with a default throttle curve in normal and v curve in idel up 1 & 2 to stop the gov dropping out at less than 30% throttle. Is this correct as they think i should have a default curve in all three throttle curves. Whos right???????????????

  • #2
    You certainly would not have a default curve for idle up as when you go below %25 the gov will drop out. Causes all sorts of havoc when inverted!!!!
    So a V would be the case.
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    • #3
      Yup, exactly as Ade says
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      • #4
        youre correct kev, you shouldnt have the curve lower than 30 percent unless you want it to drop out
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        • #5
          Maybe there is just a difference with terminology. For normal mode I tend to think of the throttle curve as a linear curve and the idle ups as a v curve. Because of this you could argue that these are the "default" curves for the particular flight mode selected. But you are right in what you have said and done.
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          • #6
            The last sentence in item 7 in the manual tells us to set it up like for normal flying. In other words, use regular curves that work without the governor. If the sensor fails, nothing bad will happen.
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            • #7
              so it looks like a curve of 0 inh 50 inh 100 in normal, and a v curve in idel up 1 & 2 is the way to go not 0 inh 50 inh 100 in all flight modes. Their argument was if the gov fails and reverts back to your throttle curves you will have 100 at bottom stick, but i said its still better than having no throttle inverted

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              • #8
                if you have 0-inh-50-inh-100 in st1 and st2 then you will have serious issues inverted, go with a V curve 100-inh-50-inh-100 or similair.
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                • #9
                  so called disagreement at field

                  what disagreement have you got with me, i think you will find my curves in my handset are not default,thats the thanks you get for trying to help someone out,bloody charming

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GravityKills View Post
                    The last sentence in item 7 in the manual tells us to set it up like for normal flying. In other words, use regular curves
                    that work without the governor. If the sensor fails, nothing bad will happen.
                    but if the sensor or governor fails when you are inverted.. the throttle falls back to your throttle curves, if this is set as the normal mode then your heli falls out of the sky.. even futaba handsets should have a v curve for the idle up modes so that you retain throttle whilst inverted should the governor/sensor fail. anyone setting idle up on a linear curve is just asking to buy shares in their LHS..

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 0h5h1t View Post
                      but if the sensor or governor fails when you are inverted.. the throttle falls back to your throttle curves, if this is set as the normal mode then your heli falls out of the sky.. even futaba handsets should have a v curve for the idle up modes so that you retain throttle whilst inverted should the governor/sensor fail. anyone setting idle up on a linear curve is just asking to buy shares in their LHS..
                      by "Regular curves" it means set it up as if you had NO gov, linear in norm and V curves (with bottom of the "V" at 50% min.....
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                      • #12
                        I fly futaba and I still have V curves set up in Idle 1 and 2. Normal mode has a linear 0-100 curve.

                        The heli should be setup to fly perfectly well in all modes without the governor. The governor is a bolt on to this setup to aid in maintaining the rotor speed nothing more or less...
                        Rob


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jasplod View Post
                          what disagreement have you got with me, i think you will find my curves in my handset are not default,thats the thanks you get for trying to help someone out,bloody charming
                          Hey fella, try not to take it so personally. He's just asking what the correct curves are for his model helicopter. He's not F'ing and blinding about people and saying they're morons or anything. He's just seeking more advice from people with experience using spektrum radios....
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                          • #14
                            I would set it up so you have your head speed set up for 2k in idle 2 & about 1.8k in idle 1 so if it throws a magnet it wont over speed the head or chuck a blade grip.
                            Then set your gov to prety much the same i.e 1.8k in idle 1 2k in idle 2.
                            I would have idle 1 & 2 set to v curves also under this format with the gear or aux switch changing the locked head speed to suit.
                            I set up all my IC Helis this way.
                            Last edited by LipolyGone; 07-06-2010, 01:33 AM.
                            Martin
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                            • #15
                              Warning

                              hi all having had first hand experiance with these little devices make sure your engine is tuned properly and you have your curves dailed in to suit your style ov flying ,before these things are actievated you can have a trashed engine in no time or worse a trashed heli as this pic shows
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