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  • spartan 760 gro prob

    ok dudes

    i was flying the other day in a bit of a funnel with my 600le 780 gyro/650 tail and the tail blew around 180 degrees and then spun back.
    so i changed the gyro and tail servo for the spartan 760 and the bls251.
    now i've got a wiggle, when you fly around in a funnel the tail wiggles like a "wing wing wing wing wing wing" just say the words in your head lol.

    it also was drifting so i don't think it's a wag it's more of a wiggle.

    anyone else had the same prob??

    thanks in advance
    lee
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  • #2
    How is it mounted would be my first guess.

    What and how many pads etc??

    btw, saying it in my head sounds like the local take away telephone lol
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    • #3
      Whats the gain on?

      doesnt do this by any chance?

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      • #4
        Or is it like this? -> http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/avant-...luttering.html
        JR Vibe Fifty fb (YS56)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jamin_00 View Post
          How is it mounted would be my first guess.

          What and how many pads etc??

          btw, saying it in my head sounds like the local take away telephone lol

          lol

          it's got the normal white pad then the metal plate then a thicker pad that came with the gp780
          Trex 700 LE, 610's cyclic. Vbar, Radix mains, OS105HZ

          Trex 600 NSP 610's, OS55/Redline 53, 9254 tail, Vbar, Align Mains

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sacko View Post
            Whats the gain on?

            doesnt do this by any chance?

            YouTube - Gyro Problem.mp4
            saw that earlier post but it's not like that but thanks. it's more of a wiggle lol
            Trex 700 LE, 610's cyclic. Vbar, Radix mains, OS105HZ

            Trex 600 NSP 610's, OS55/Redline 53, 9254 tail, Vbar, Align Mains

            Trex 450 Pro Kbar

            Trex 700 Gasser Helix, Vbar

            Raptor G4 OS105HZ

            Gaui NX4 OS37SZ

            Spectra G gasser FOR SALE spec to follow

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Steve View Post

              thats pretty close
              Trex 700 LE, 610's cyclic. Vbar, Radix mains, OS105HZ

              Trex 600 NSP 610's, OS55/Redline 53, 9254 tail, Vbar, Align Mains

              Trex 450 Pro Kbar

              Trex 700 Gasser Helix, Vbar

              Raptor G4 OS105HZ

              Gaui NX4 OS37SZ

              Spectra G gasser FOR SALE spec to follow

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              • #8
                Originally posted by leckylee View Post
                thats pretty close
                Have a good read, and PM Angelos or raptorheli2 if you need some further advice.
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                • #9
                  just a thought after reading the flutter thread anyone know what the best distance from the centre of the servo the ball needs to be on the 600?

                  Trex 700 LE, 610's cyclic. Vbar, Radix mains, OS105HZ

                  Trex 600 NSP 610's, OS55/Redline 53, 9254 tail, Vbar, Align Mains

                  Trex 450 Pro Kbar

                  Trex 700 Gasser Helix, Vbar

                  Raptor G4 OS105HZ

                  Gaui NX4 OS37SZ

                  Spectra G gasser FOR SALE spec to follow

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                  • #10
                    Check that Align pad - I used one with my 760 and it started to fail after 5 flights.
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                    • #11
                      Whatever it needs to be so that you can run 100% deflection both ways in the PC menu at full stick.
                      JR Vibe Fifty fb (YS56)

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                      • #12
                        The manual says 13 to 17mm Lee.
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                        • #13
                          It is just tail wag as you commonly see it in hover. But in this case it manifests in more aggressive conditions. This is why the gyro user guide states "The optimal gain value is the highest value you can reach that goes not cause tail wag at any time during flight."

                          Reduce the gain until it goes away. If the gain becomes too low move the servo ball link a little closer to centre to reduce the mechanical gain.

                          -Angelos
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Angelos View Post
                            It is just tail wag as you commonly see it in hover. But in this case it manifests in more aggressive conditions. This is why the gyro user guide states "The optimal gain value is the highest value you can reach that goes not cause tail wag at any time during flight."

                            Reduce the gain until it goes away. If the gain becomes too low move the servo ball link a little closer to centre to reduce the mechanical gain.

                            -Angelos
                            Angelos i am getting a bit of drift if i turn it down too much and if i put the ball closer to the center of the servo i won't get as much travel. i know i can increase the travel limits but that may affect the resolution of the gyro??
                            Trex 700 LE, 610's cyclic. Vbar, Radix mains, OS105HZ

                            Trex 600 NSP 610's, OS55/Redline 53, 9254 tail, Vbar, Align Mains

                            Trex 450 Pro Kbar

                            Trex 700 Gasser Helix, Vbar

                            Raptor G4 OS105HZ

                            Gaui NX4 OS37SZ

                            Spectra G gasser FOR SALE spec to follow

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                            • #15
                              all you should need to do is move it in a hole and increase the travel limits. resolution is more than the end points. the heli you have it on has too much mechanical gain imo so you need to run a shorter horn and put the end points up a touch.

                              cheers

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