livening up the 600

[leckylee]

Has anyone got any ideas about livening up the 600
Spec is

600 nsp, 610's cyclic, standard flybar, os 50 hyper, spartan gyro, bls251 tail, maverick blades (American stylee),

I have heard that the align 610's can run on 8 volts (is this true)


Lee

[sacko]

Paddles make a massive difference, get some Stubs.

What cyclic pitch are you running?

I personally wouldnt bother upping the voltage on the 610s.

[Geek]

Flybarless might help
then a 55

[sacko]

A Cyclock also changed the feel of my NSP completely.

..but they are like Marmite, you either love them or hate them.

[Gareth-71]

Paddles make a massive difference, get some Stubs.

What cyclic pitch are you running?

I personally wouldnt bother upping the voltage on the 610s.

As someone that has many many hundreds of flights on a 600, I totally agree with this - spot on!

Forget everything else, stubby paddles and up cyclic pitch to 9deg, lively as you want!

Gareth

[Jam 50]

Dunno what pitch im running on cyclic i just increase the rate till im happy. Swash does bind like a gooden in the corners though just got to be carefull while flying thats all.

[sacko]

The Cyclock has a digital cyclic ring, so you dont bind the swash in the corners, which allows you to up the rates even more

[/plugging Cyclock]

Also had a QUk swash on mine which must have helped as it is a lot thinner.

[Jam 50]

yea ive got a swash ring option in my tx ive set it up in my 500 yet to do it in my 6 n 700. Would a cycloc be better than this method though? Cause the 500 does still bind a bit.

[leckylee]

Cheers guys

i think i'm runnig about 7 degrees cyclic, like Jam says does bind if you go any more, good point about the Cyclock and the quick uk swash Sacko thanks.

thanks everyone
lee

[Mike W]

stick some lighter paddles on it .. Raptor greens should do the trick ... and pretty cheap to boot

[kenny.c]

Try either some Maniacs or Red Devils for main blades.....also what headspeed are you running..

Ken

[barney]

In no particular order.

Headspeed No 1 2100

Paddles No 2 pick your poision

Blades. No.3 Try the Align 600 Pro Wood blades they do wonders for response but Autos suffer.

Mixing arms No 4
To liven it you can Modify the upper Mixers. Use Plastic SF ones and drill holes a few mm inboard. That increases both Pitch and Cyclic pitch range and is really easy to do.

Brian

[Bruinbear]

You don't need to go spending loads of money Lee. If you increase your cyclic throws up from 7 degrees to 8 or even 9 I think you find this will give you the response that you're looking for. A plastic cyclic ring may be needed to overcome binding issues, but these are only a few pounds.
You could up the swashmix percentage. Upping the head speed (2100) a little will make the heli more responsive and increase the pitch to say +/-13 or more, but you may find you start to bog the engine if you go too far, unless you're good at collective management.
Try the things that don't cost money first !
Mike.

[moyesboy]

30% nitro

Quick UK swash

Remove the collar from above the top bearing and place it between the bearing blocks above the bottom bearing - this allows more cyclic at full negative without binding.

Up the head speed (but too much will reduce engine life).

Fiddle about with the link lengths to get the swash zero pitch position for maximum travel without binding

Try some cyclic -throttle mixing even if you have a governor.

Light paddles - try the K&BDD for cheap ones. Stubs will do it but they are expensive.

Ditch the std dampers - I run K&Bdd yellows, the orange are more fierce (but might not last as long) - yuo don't need the spindle sleeve but it makes no difference if you have it or not with these dampers. I run plastic grips and never tried metal grips.

Fit the longer flybar - its win win.

Blades will obviously make a difference but I'm sticking to cheap ones - on the GLX captain crash at the moment - I've had maniac 603 and they autod a bit better but response was similar - there is a new livelier maniac out now? perhaps the align Ds would be more lively? Radix stick bangers?

In the end the heli is really lively in collective, but I could cope with faster cyclic
- but it'll do for now.

Oh and before you start seaching for a cyclic ring - I just jammed a 21mm servo disc on the cyclic stick (DX7) - it hits the bazel and stops the stick going in the corners but allows full travel for elevator and aileron. The last thing I want to happen when its all bogging down out and I'm bending the sticks to miss the ground is a link popping off due to binding!

[Kwickkwack]

I saw Gordon thrash his 600 around recently, and can confirm it is "lively" The home made cyclic ring is pure genius and as cheap as chips, post a pic mate it is great.