700 wow, wow and wow

[moonmanflyer]

First time today giving the 700 some stick, oh my god what a heli.
Tweek on the gov, couple of clicks on the needle to lean it out and off she went.
Very impressed with it over the synergy, never quite got it working right and then it died anyway, but you can feel the nibleness of the 700 as soon as you lift in in the air.
It is as manoverable as the 600 almost, accurate, cyclics are fast, pitch is so powerfull you can just get away with anything.
Managed my first traveling sideways tick-tocks with it 2 mins into the flight and at a constant height.
Tail is rock solid, not a movement of tail in drops at speed, and piros when vertical are spot on, heli hangs in the air for ever.
and then to top it off it autos forever, you can move it around a foot off the ground for what seems an age.
Will keep an eye on the head dampers just in case

[simm0]

hi there..if you dont mind me asking..hows it better than the synergy..in which way.because we have a synergy and to be honest we have had a few niggles.but flyin wise its stunning..we was considering purchasing a 700 but after all the problems ive heard im not going too..so tell me moreand what tricks have you done that make it better than the synergy because just hoverings not a fair comparison
cheers craig simmons

[raptorheli2]

i have 2 synergys and 1 trex 700.

imo the synergy is a better flying heli.............BUT................the 700 is definetely a better chuck about due to price/weight diff). in 2 years i have replaced 2 sets of dampers and a fuel magnet on my synergys and in 2 gallons i already replaced the dampers and main mast bearings on my 700.

i can see the attraction to the 700 as it is very light but that is also a hinderance in some manouvers..........you pays yer money as they say.

cheers

[Arwel]

Glad you like it moonmanflyer. Any vibrations? LOL. Have you got an OMI fuel magnet in it?

[simm0]

if you gonna worry about the prices.dont buy a 90..imo having a 90 is about having a model thats built to last.
like having a ford ka and expecting a bmw..
yeah im sure its cool.but it aint a avant/synergy/vibe..its a cheap 90
cheers craig..sorry it was the statement being better than a synergy,,,im glad moonmanflyers happy tho.thats what its all about enjoying heli's

[raptorheli2]

craig, i have and have had high dollar 90's all my heli life and it's about time they were brought down to the prices of mere mortals. YES they are more expensive but the 700 is so damn close to 600 money it really isn't worth mentioning if you ding it. fuel wise it's maybe 4-5 flights a gallon less ish which is where most people worry. my advice is don't let it worry you as i would rather have 5 flights to a gallon on a 90 than say 9 with a 50 any day of they week. however, that is just me and there are pros and cons for each.

a 90 and 50 if treated the same would probably last the same amout of time. just because align never overcharged for their 90 doesn't mean it's junk. that said, i think the part quality is pretty poor generally in the usual places....BUT....i have carbon frames and a full metal head my synergys don't have at nearly twice the money. so is align too cheap or are the other 90's too expensive?............ummmmm bit of both i'd say.

cheers

[moonmanflyer]

hi there..if you dont mind me asking..hows it better than the synergy..in which way.because we have a synergy and to be honest we have had a few niggles.but flyin wise its stunning..we was considering purchasing a 700 but after all the problems ive heard im not going too..so tell me moreand what tricks have you done that make it better than the synergy because just hoverings not a fair comparison
cheers craig simmons

Every heli has it's niggles, none are perfect but i built, setup flew the 700.
Synergy was build, mess around and around and around fly, still not right etc etc etc.
Everyone has there fav and not fav manufacturers need to way up for yourself.
As how it flys, you can feel the lightness, crisper on pitch punchouts, no phasing on rolls flips etc, i expect the synergy would be better in strong winds but haven't flown the 700 in anything to strong yet.

i have 2 synergys and 1 trex 700.

imo the synergy is a better flying heli.............BUT................the 700 is definetely a better chuck about due to price/weight diff). in 2 years i have replaced 2 sets of dampers and a fuel magnet on my synergys and in 2 gallons i already replaced the dampers and main mast bearings on my 700.

i can see the attraction to the 700 as it is very light but that is also a hinderance in some manouvers..........you pays yer money as they say.

cheers

I just didn't get on with it, found it a nightmare to get flying right, took weeks to feel right, phased terrible for such a big heli, vibrations were never fully cured, felt heavy in the air and my biggest gripe was the spares costs. Did get it flying well in the end and was just starting to enjoy flying it and BANG, it's dead, would cost a small fortune to fix.
The head dampers on the 700 are £2.50 a set, i can live with that every couple of gallons.
Like i said everyone has there favorites, synergy's aren't mine.

Glad you like it moonmanflyer. Any vibrations? LOL. Have you got an OMI fuel magnet in it?

No vibes, and yes, OMI magnet fitted.

[moonmanflyer]

craig, i have and have had high dollar 90's all my heli life and it's about time they were brought down to the prices of mere mortals. YES they are more expensive but the 700 is so damn close to 600 money it really isn't worth mentioning if you ding it. fuel wise it's maybe 4-5 flights a gallon less ish which is where most people worry. my advice is don't let it worry you as i would rather have 5 flights to a gallon on a 90 than say 9 with a 50 any day of they week. however, that is just me and there are pros and cons for each.

a 90 and 50 if treated the same would probably last the same amout of time. just because align never overcharged for their 90 doesn't mean it's junk. that said, i think the part quality is pretty poor generally in the usual places....BUT....i have carbon frames and a full metal head my synergys don't have at nearly twice the money. so is align too cheap or are the other 90's too expensive?............ummmmm bit of both i'd say.

cheers

I agree to a point, synergy to expensive, even you can't argue that one.
Align cheep, just a new era, things have moved on, maybe not as exotic as an avant, but thats not ness a bad thing

if you gonna worry about the prices.dont buy a 90..imo having a 90 is about having a model thats built to last.
like having a ford ka and expecting a bmw..
yeah im sure its cool.but it aint a avant/synergy/vibe..its a cheap 90
cheers craig..sorry it was the statement being better than a synergy,,,im glad moonmanflyers happy tho.thats what its all about enjoying heli's

All 90's fall to bits after a while, stratus's rain bits from the skys and look at there prices.
Most manufacturers don't fix the know probs, the only ones that address them are compass and align.
What is the point of spending 700 odd quid on a supposed top level kit, and then have to spend another couple fixing know probs that they have never addressed.

[raptorheli2]

moonman, i'm not arguing sod all about synergy being expensive. i never mentioned the prices for that.

the dampers failing thankfully is always a problem for align and i'm sure someone will make a good set very soon that will last.

it's funny you mention the phasing issue with your synergy. i have a problem with my 700 for this right now i'm trying to fix. when i do anything side on the nose tucks it. it is really evident on side metros and to the point very annoying. i have dialed out everything i can with my radio (14mz) and ordered a swash tool to fix. i'm at a loss just now as to the fix so i ordered a cnc swash to to double double check everything. i've never had to do this before but here we are.

i'm also using a fuel magnet and my heli has vibes. had to buy a clutch and i'm waiting on a hub to be released as they are about 5thou when dialed. funnily enough my synergy was same but the synergy design allows it to be fixed with a LOT of messing.

as i always said to people, synergy is best heli i have flown and the worst heli i have built. i had vibe probs with that aswell.

cheers

[simm0]

i agree with ALL OF YA...BUT BETTER MAYBE NOT..DIFFERENT YEAH 4 SURE,,,, i do agree 90's are over priced also.im hoping align's prices will adjust the others in time.but im not holding my breath
i had a trex 600n because all my friends were having them..i hated it.stefan won the knight 3d at clubman.we like the knight and all my friend now have knights and rarely fly the trexs.its a funny game this lot..but ill tell ya this for sure..id like one of every heli and then id fly what and when the trends change..the next 1 is elyq vision 50 ive ordered mine already i also flown a rjx extreme 50 on sunday.a knight 50 yesterday a trex 500 today and a 600n today.and its what ya like and feel happy with
cheers craig..ps flying the knight 2nora too and rjx 50

[moonmanflyer]

moonman, i'm not arguing sod all about synergy being expensive. i never mentioned the prices for that.

the dampers failing thankfully is always a problem for align and i'm sure someone will make a good set very soon that will last.

it's funny you mention the phasing issue with your synergy. i have a problem with my 700 for this right now i'm trying to fix. when i do anything side on the nose tucks it. it is really evident on side metros and to the point very annoying. i have dialed out everything i can with my radio (14mz) and ordered a swash tool to fix. i'm at a loss just now as to the fix so i ordered a cnc swash to to double double check everything. i've never had to do this before but here we are.

i'm also using a fuel magnet and my heli has vibes. had to buy a clutch and i'm waiting on a hub to be released as they are about 5thou when dialed. funnily enough my synergy was same but the synergy design allows it to be fixed with a LOT of messing.

as i always said to people, synergy is best heli i have flown and the worst heli i have built. i had vibe probs with that aswell.

cheers

All my dampers are shot normanly after a dozen flights or so, the only ones i don't seem to have this prob is the super pro.
Not at your level of flying mate but phasing seems good, the only 2 i have had this prob was the original 600 nitro and the synergy, and the 450 when the dampers are shot, both seemed to suffer.
Mine seems vib free, OMI magnet fitted .
All the kit came straight out of the synergy and in to the 700. Think the thin frames on the synergy don't help with the vibes.
Shame my synergy died, i had no intention of selling it, as i said had just got it flying nice, sods law i suppose, but i would never buy one again, to time consuming on setup and took away the enjoyment.
I have nothing against any maker unless i have had a bad personnel experience, and i think that goes for everyone

[steelie600]

craig that elyq look ghastly, like a cheap craptor copt with ccpm. it may fly ok but not having flown one i can only go on looks. The plastic frames look proper cheap and its HEAVY TOO. I do know of a person who was given one but cant give it away for love nor money

[simm0]

quote by raptorheli:as i always said to people, synergy is best heli i have flown and the worst heli i have built. i had vibe probs with that aswell.
...i agree for sure..../....
no phasing issues at all for me tho....vibe problems also so we got se hub..
craig simmons..ps its about time they all got it nailed stupid problems bug them all

[simm0]

im not mentioning names..but 1 guy i know isnt flying the 700.hes flying a elyq 50...eeerm ..and he has both...its bloody ugly tho haha..and dont mean it better.just choices we make
cheers lads
craig

[moonmanflyer]

I agree 100% Craig
Thats the prob, they all have probs
There is not a big kit heli on this earth that is 100% perfect full stop.