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  • What Gov for the 600 pro

    Realy desperate to get a Gov on this Gem I've picked up but what are my options? Tried a revloc 10 on the knight Sport but it didnt hold the head speed too well so willing to try something else anyone had any sucess with the align Gov?
    Martin
    Martin
    Aka RCSlopesurfer

  • #2
    I will be updating my review of the Align governer now I've had plenty more time on it with my engine running sweet - it does work well.
    I am still getting some overspeeding now and again, but only where I would expect it and less than I was getting before (which my existing review is based on). I think it could well be slightly picky on engine tuning is all.

    I still don't have a working datalogger (both temperature and headspeed at the same time) which is bloody infuriating - however, I believe they will come together at some point! There's only so much money you can throw at something

    Still top of my list currently is the Aerospire Multigov which is excellent.

    Once I datalog the Align gov I will be moving on to the CSM Revloc 30 - which I'm looking forward to!

    Cheers,
    Rob
    Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

    | 3D Championship

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    • #3
      RL30 all the way - I use them on all mine now

      FYI, here's a short review from one of the guys at my club (KingChopper) that I managed to convince to purchase it...

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      CSM’s REVLOCK 30 and CYCLOCK.

      I fitted both these gizmos to my t-rex 600e today. But first I will talk about the cyclock.

      The cyclock from CSM is an electronic mixing gadget that allows eCCPM mixing from cheapy radios that would normally only allow for normal swash plates only. Which as an optional extra it can be used with 2 extra gyros to provide stabilization of both pitch and roll axis, allowing the pilot to remove the flybar.

      Once programmed correctly the cyclock smoothes out the swash plate travel, with any normal eCCPM set up you’ll see the swash plate seesaw as it slides up and down, now it moves in much the same way as the old shuttle, but now with the power of three servos instead of one.

      I noticed a big difference when I fitted mine as I started to go through the setting up procedure. I thought my system was pretty well set up, how wrong I was. I thought that the spektrum radio system helped to remove the swash plate seesaw so I quite surprised how much more precise the cyclic outputs became.
      I have lost that slight interaction between aileron and elevator that I was used to as I cork screwed out of a roll. And gone to is the annoying tendency to roll out of a loop.

      Because it is fully programmable allowing you to adjust things like phasing error that is present on raptors.

      But being fully programmable doesn’t mean you can forget to set up the helicopter correctly in the first place. The programming will only remove errors inherent to the helicopter.

      It only took half an hour to set up and reroute the wires.

      Would this help the newbie, well to be truthful no not really, this is a devise more suited the extreme 3D pilot, or the scale pilot who wants to go down the true scale route.

      Will I get another one, you bet I will.


      Now for the revlock 30, this isn’t just a governor, it is also a collective pitch management system that uses the cyclock to reduce the collective pitch should the engine (or electric motor) start to bog down.

      It is a bit more fiddle to fit than the cyclock, and because I’m using it on an electric motor I have to fit 6 magnets to the main gear wheel. Once the sensor is in the correct place it doesn’t take long to set up

      To be honest I would not have believed that an electric motor needed a governor, as they tend to be self governing anyway again i have been proved wrong

      Following the instructions I increased my pitch range to +12 and -12, and set the cyclic pitch to 9 degrees.

      the second flight was at the higher speed setting, as I was getting used to the cyclock in the first flight. Everything felt normal, same head speed as I was used too, but the climb rate was noticeable faster. I tried a ticktock, yes I know I can’t really do them as I tend to use too much collective and cyclic but hey the motor didn’t bog down at all, just magic.

      Now here is the surprising part, when I recharged my battery pack I found that I had used 26% less energy than normal. Which should if after more testing, allow me to increase my flight time.

      Will this device help the newbie, again being honest fitting a governor will help any one maintain a more stable hover, and consistent head speed is a heli pilot’s friend.

      Did I notice any difference apart from the machine not bogging in the high load moves, no! Not really.

      Will I be getting another one, yes to see what it will do on a glow engine.

      overall conclusion, a 25% flight time increase will be magic.
      yes i am totally impressed with whole system. well worth the investment

      --------------------------------------------------------------

      FYI, this was done on a T-Rex 600e with 600XL motor...

      Trev
      Sent from my PC using Windows 7

      - CSM
      - Midland Helicopters

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      • #4
        Hi Rob...be interested in that review of the Revloc 30..but without a cycloc in the loop.

        There is also a new Multigov in the pipeline going by the forums, but the current multigov/config card combo produces very good results and is an excellent choice for use with a DX7 or Radios with limited programing.

        BTW Martin...Rob has a Review of the Multigov on http://www.50-tuning.com/

        I have a throttle Jockey Pro sitting here less sensor/magnet/brkt for £15 posted if thats of any use to you. My fav is the Multigov...


        SPARTANRC Team pilot


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        • #5
          - Trex 600CF - ZPower Z50 1150KV motor, eMultigov, Revolution 6s, Radix 600mm Blades, CSM 720.
          I guess that's just out of date Trev
          LOL

          I'm looking forward to playing with the Revloc 30!
          (With and without the cyclock Brian )
          Cheers,
          Rob
          Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

          | 3D Championship

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          • #6
            Deffo out of date, I got fed up of changing it every 5 mins

            Trev
            Sent from my PC using Windows 7

            - CSM
            - Midland Helicopters

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            • #7
              Shocking

              LOL
              Cheers,
              Rob
              Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

              | 3D Championship

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              • #8
                Nice little heads up on the setup your running Trev. Just a thought..Could some of that 25% less Mha usage not be attributed to the warmer temperatures we are fortunate to have this now? I too have noticed a reduction in my Mha usage the last week or so especially now the temps are into the teens.


                SPARTANRC Team pilot


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                • #9
                  Wasn't on my machine, that was an independant club flyer, personally I have noticed increased flight times on mine since swapping to the RL30, makes sense really, if you're not bogging then you aren't drawing high amps. A data logger really needs to be put to work here, I'm sure Rob will cover that in his review...

                  My current setup is:
                  - 8s 4400 Revos
                  - zPower Z50 780KV motor
                  - RL30
                  - Cyclock
                  - Align 600D mains
                  - SL720 Gyro

                  That's my latest - I think

                  Trev
                  Sent from my PC using Windows 7

                  - CSM
                  - Midland Helicopters

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                  • #10
                    FYI, forgot to add, when I was flying my 6s 5300 setup it had more grunt with the RL30 than my 8s setup without RL30... Shows how bad I was with my stick bending pitch management

                    Trev
                    Sent from my PC using Windows 7

                    - CSM
                    - Midland Helicopters

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by barney View Post
                      Could some of that 25% less Mha usage not be attributed to the warmer temperatures we are fortunate to have this now? I too have noticed a reduction in my Mha usage the last week or so especially now the temps are into the teens.
                      dude i was flying yesterday with the same packs and today i am suddenly using 25% Mah less.

                      freaking awsome, i will be doing more testing to prove the revlock is more efficient i only had two flights today
                      andrew dodds


                      synergy N9
                      Trex600 electric
                      trex450
                      raptor 60
                      3dnt
                      millenium II
                      raptor 50
                      sceadu50
                      shuttle


                      member of hayling helis

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                      • #12
                        I've been using the align gov in both my trex nitros without a problem, they are easy to use and at a good price

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