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  • Bloody Sim

    All,

    Okay now getting miffed by either pushing myself to hard or not enough

    Inverted how the hell do you crack that one

    I can now do some stuff now but other bits are sending me mad!

    Any advice on easy 3D moves to try and describe the stick movements as well!

    Auto's why oh why does the heli fall left a lot once on the ground. Getting used to stick in right once its on the ground.

    Also doing silly low inverted 1foot hover to backwards inverted low and keeping the machine in front of me as well.... But I always stick the wrong direction in and do crash at some point.

    Bloody Sim is doing my head in
    Mark
    www.uavaerialservices.co.uk
    BNUCs - Operations certified
    CAA - Permit for Aerial Work

  • #2
    Oh yea still the best sim I have ever used as well...

    I have had others and never got on with them but warming to Phoenix, just wish I could run it native instead of having to reboot all the bloody time from OS to OS.
    Mark
    www.uavaerialservices.co.uk
    BNUCs - Operations certified
    CAA - Permit for Aerial Work

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    • #3
      Disc

      Stop whinging and practice more

      Stick time!
      Slow Mo Blade 550x

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      • #4
        Originally posted by richieclarkie View Post
        Disc

        Stop whinging and practice more

        Stick time!
        More stick time....

        just keep crashing at the moment backed off the sim for a bit...

        I can say its bloody hard enough on the sim that alone with one sat out in front of me at the site. Cannot wait to try some stuff with the T-rex at the field and don't care if I crash it either

        Definitely got to try an Auto as well
        Mark
        www.uavaerialservices.co.uk
        BNUCs - Operations certified
        CAA - Permit for Aerial Work

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        • #5
          A trick I used when learning to fly inverted was to watch the tail when flying around, as the stick movement follows the tail rather than the nose i.e left rudder swings the tail to the left. After a while you forget about it and it becomes reflex, but I found it useful to start with.



          ps. Your gasser is still going strong. Soon to be wrapped in a lovely bell 222 fuz.

          Cheers,

          Simon
          Cheers,
          Simon
          --------------------------------------------
          Trex 700N & E
          Futaba 18mz and some planks !!

          x 2

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          • #6
            The heli definitely seems more prone to tip over in the sim than real life.
            I'm always tipping the helis over on the grpund on the sim - but I've never.....(no I'm not going to say it! )
            Get negative on as soon as its on the ground to make it stick and not topple over.
            www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
            600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
            trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
            "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
            MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

            Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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            • #7
              Just guessing here but i had this problem for ages on the sim. I put it down to trying to almost slide it down as it came in. After watching the pro's do it they always seem to touch down with the front of the skids first and then set the back down, this was where my error was. I wasn't bringing it into a hover before placing it down simply because I wasn't slowing it up enough and then using enough collective. You'll be suprised how much hang time you can get so try bringing it down, slowing up into a hover and then setting it down. Get used to that and the tipping over will vanish.

              Wether this is the correct way or not I haven't a clue but I can pretty much sit it down in front of me for the most part and no tipping 99% of the time and it also looks much more akin to how more accomplished pilots do it.
              Velocity 50
              Synergy N5
              Fury 55 FBL
              Trex 700

              Light travels faster than sound, this is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Si_B View Post
                A trick I used when learning to fly inverted was to watch the tail when flying around, as the stick movement follows the tail rather than the nose i.e left rudder swings the tail to the left. After a while you forget about it and it becomes reflex, but I found it useful to start with.



                ps. Your gasser is still going strong. Soon to be wrapped in a lovely bell 222 fuz.

                Cheers,

                Simon

                Glad to hear the Gasser is doing okay.

                post some pics once its in the Bell 222
                Mark
                www.uavaerialservices.co.uk
                BNUCs - Operations certified
                CAA - Permit for Aerial Work

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                • #9
                  I'm hooked.... great innit.
                  John

                  sigpic Proud holder of an Eddie Gold Star.


                  Too many hobbies, not enough hours in a day.

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                  • #10
                    When trying to learn new oriewntations on the sim I've been using small quick stick movements so you can see each control impot on the heli. Then when you go the wrong way you can correct quickly the other way and avoid crashing. Once oyu are keeping it flying for longer then the lkearnign is quicker.
                    However my nudge nudge control technique shows up on the heli in real life and doesn't look very smooth.
                    www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
                    600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
                    trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
                    "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
                    MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

                    Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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                    • #11
                      Just call it slow-mo crack and you'll mabe get away with it
                      LOL
                      Cheers,
                      Rob
                      Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

                      | 3D Championship

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by robgt View Post
                        Just call it slow-mo crack and you'll mabe get away with it
                        LOL
                        Cheers,
                        Rob
                        Do you mean slow the sim down? Would that help with odd moves?
                        John

                        sigpic Proud holder of an Eddie Gold Star.


                        Too many hobbies, not enough hours in a day.

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                        • #13
                          Also use the inverted training, you can add controls one at a time until you're comfortable.
                          Velocity 50
                          Synergy N5
                          Fury 55 FBL
                          Trex 700

                          Light travels faster than sound, this is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....

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                          • #14
                            Do you mean slow the sim down? Would that help with odd moves?
                            Nah, it was a joke
                            Alan Szabo flies "crack <insert move name here>" - moyesboys description of his flying sounded like a slowed down version...


                            Cheers,
                            Rob
                            Team Align, Midland Helicopters, Optifuel, Cyclone Blades, Scorpion Motors, Thunder Power, Savox Servos, JR Propo

                            | 3D Championship

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                            • #15
                              No, it aint slowed down, its just like Szarbo - well if you look at the sticks and ignor the heli it is!
                              www.heli-extreme.co.uk a good club in south Sheffield
                              600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
                              trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
                              "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
                              MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

                              Dont spend more flying models than it costs to fly for real

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