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  • Any set of typical model tweaks?

    After having just looked at the thread about RF G6 I am wondering; Is there a known set of basic tweaks you can do to the models in Phoenix to make them a bit more realistic in terms of flight characteristics.

    For a long time I never even looked at the parameters you can edit but recently I had a look and found a few things that did help.

    In general I find the models in Phoenix have unrealistic power to weight, seem too light in the air generally and appear to float too long / don't fall fast enough when there's no lift, cyclics are often unrealistically fast. Basically most models appear too light, more powerful than real life, too twitchy (I'm running 30% expo on the TX).
    Last edited by trillian; 01-01-2013, 06:11 PM.
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    Originally posted by trillian View Post
    In general I find the models in Phoenix have unrealistic power to weight, seem too light in the air generally and appear to float too long / don't fall fast enough when there's no lift, cyclics are often unrealistically fast. Basically most models appear too light, more powerful than real life, too twitchy (I'm running 30% expo on the TX).
    Thought it was just me that found that with Phoneix. I really need to spend some time to make it feel more life like. Will be inter5ested to hear what RF G6 is like.
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    • #3
      Ive altered the rappy 50 to fly like a 90 and resized it etc. Flys pretty similar imo. And Ive also adjusted the k3d to fly like mine used to. The one I find is really out there tho is the Goblin 700. There surely is no way the cyclics are that fast in real life. Ive watched Bert Kammerer and Tareq Al Saadi fly the Goblin and theirs just arent that fast. So would like some feedback off a Goblin pilot with regards how they have theirs set up in phoenix
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      • #4
        here is a link to rc helination, they have done some good setups and a vid on how to put them on your Phoenix.
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        • #5
          I have changed the Headspeed to 1750/1850 on the Goblin 700 to more match the way I have mine set up. I also cut the ATV down to 50% on AER.
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          • #6
            I have been flying a Blade 450 3D in Phoenix, and finding it very twitchy compared to the real machine - I thought it was me until I saw this thread!

            Does anyone have settings for a DX6i and possibly Phoenix to set a realistic model for learning? I had to change some settings on the DX6i to get it to fly without instant crashes, but I haven't changed the Phoenix settings.

            Alternatively, is there a stock model on Phoenix which behaves realistically when compared to a Blade 450 3D - I'm not bothered if it's not the same description if the flight characteristics are similar!

            Owen
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            • #7
              Hi Owen. If you want to calm the Heli down and make it not so twitchy? Then go to EDIT the Model. You can change the FINE TUNING, also Headspeed on the Rotor Governer, then change some settings on the Advance settings.

              I personally just change the Rotor Headspeed and then on the Tx change the Dual Rates to have say, 100, 75, 50.
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              • #8
                ive got 3 head speeds on mine and got diff dual rates on my tranny.

                But basically have a look how yours is set up in real life and set the settings like it in the edit model and then just play about withit until it mirrors your actual machine
                Some say my left nipple is the shape of a Raptor canopy.......... And that for fun I chase sheep in wellies 3 sizes too big. All I know is I am ​3D Clod
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