Phoenix question

[james 1989]

Just a quick question really how good is phoenix for teaching and learning on? Is it a case of if you can do it on the sim you should be able to do it for real as ive only done 20 flights with my 450 which is my first heli ever amd been playing around on phoenix and i can do a bit of 3d flying. Tick tocks etc and flying inverted and doind basic circuits amd loops.
Just curious really.

James

[maddog7]

If your heli is flybarless it will probably feel more like the sim, the biggest difference between sim and field of course is fear. If you have none then technically whatever you do in phoenix you can do IRL as long as you take into account things that you must set in phoenix like wind and breakages etc. Personally, i don't think the absolute accuracy is what makes a sim useful, it's the abilty to learn to react instinctively.
10 years ago I was just beginning to learn half pyro flips after only flying for about 9 months and the sim I was using was something called Truflight 3d. It was very basic graphically but the physics engine was smooth and I learned very quickly as a result.
I think it's an idea to be a couple of steps behind the sim IRL meaning you have a bit of a buffer in the comfort zone to prevent fried synapses!
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[cjcj1949]

Once you can do it for real it will feel just like the sim. Before that it will be much more difficult. The fear factor reduces your ability and so you have to practice until the fear gets less. Crashing is a good way to reduce the fear of crashing.

[waveydavey]

Crashing is a good way to reduce the fear of crashing.

Classic and how true

[james 1989]

thanks for the replys. i have been flying the raptor 30 quite a bit as thats my real heli and i feel my control over the model is getting much more easy as far as not having to think as much about control inputs at different orientations in flight so i think its working for me. ive crashed my 450 and im not afraid of crashing that anymore now...i guess ill have to go and crash the raptor then to get over that.

[cjcj1949]

Once you know what real flying is like Phoenix is just like the real thing. When I had some problems with flying inverted in real life I went back to Phoenix and found I had exactly the same problem. I was ok with wind the right way up as everything was automatic. Inverted I had to think and inverted and wind was too much. Exactly the same in Phoenix as in real life.