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    Cheap RT for Phoenix Pro Simulator Version 3.0-Help Please?

    Hello Everyone,
    Just wished to ask a question I thought I had already posted?
    I have just purchased a phoenix sim 3.0 (still to arrive)

    I had already posted the question elsewhere and received a mixed bag of advice most of it top notch,but I am more than keen to get everything as right as possible.and solicit the widest feedback possible...
    I have already recived very kind & helpful replies to my first main posting on Heli Lessons.

    There appears to be a few different approaches as to what RT I should buy for the new SIM??my idea to buy a cheap RT for the sim and later when things are sorted out,I could go for a really good RT?(many other folk suggested buying the best RT now and use with sim and future Heli?) I was looking at Spektrum But quite a few folk on other forums suggested caution re Spektrum as it appears they get more complaints than most..and many top flyers have given up on Spektrum favouring FUTABA? this I know is a potencial minefield.

    I do not have many places if any to be able to try these out then choose so am taking the combined expertise of all you guys and others to for a balanced and considered judgement on which make and then which Heli specific Model to go for.

    most folk seem to think FUTABA is the Rolls Royce of RT?As I have said in all my postings I will only ever own one Heli [100%]a very high spec one but still just the one heli. so that may come in to the equation also.

    and for the above reasons I really did not wish to go out and buy the same RT I will/maybe using with the Heli (when I am able to buy it?)

    I am reliably informed that a 8-9 channel RT even for the sim maybe required add to this my old Dell Studio 32 bit 2008/9 Laptop with not to good graphics card and I can see problems?

    I do not think you can upgrade the graphics card in laptops like mine? and I would need a lot of advice on which Graphics card to buy as I intend this laptop or maybe a new one??? to be almost 75% dedicated to the RC HELI`s where I can use the sim to the max and of course use the Laptop for all the other Computer related Heli stuff

    so if ther is anyone out there who can offer help and advice I would be very grateful
    I am not very tech minded i`m afraid.


    Many thanks in advance
    cheers Steve
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    Hey

    What heli will you be getting? Electric or nitro?

    Rich
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    • #3
      Hi mate. It is a personal choice when it comes to radios. When you bought your copy of Phoenix it should have come with a lead that will only work with a specific type of transmitter, so just make sure that you get the right one when you do buy.
      Personally I like to use the tx I fly with when I practice on the sim...but you could get a cheapy such as a Spektrum DX4 to practice with (I have seen them sold on the BMFA for about £25).
      As far as complaints about Spektrum gear...I am completely satisfied with mine and have never had any issues - other people will no doubt have a different story. Remember that Spektrum does have the largest share of the market (I think) and because of that will also have the most complaints.
      My advice would be to buy mid range, 7 channel, 2.4GHz transmitter. Whichever brand you choose will do the job...but remember once you have picked a brand you are in a kind of long term relationship because of recievers, etc.
      Good luck and have fun.

      Mike
      Trex 700 DFC - Vortexted, TRex 600, OUTRAGE FUSION 50, 500ESP, 450PRO, 130x.

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      • #4
        Spektrum still has many fans and if you go to any flyin the spektrums are still the most numerous. Futaba has its fansd as well.

        Regarding the abovequestion - for a nitro you will need 7 channels but for an electric 6 channels is enough.

        One way forward for the sim is to buy an old 35mhz tx off fleabay for next to nothing. If you buy a JR than thephoenix plugs straight in without an adaptor. Then the tx wil feel like the one you will fly your hewli with rather than using a very cheap chinese plastic tx.

        You can buy phoenix with a basic sim tx included.

        On the simn to begin learning to fly makes no difference what tx, but as you progress its best to use the same tx you fly the heli with, so the idle up switches and throttle hold switches are the ones you will use for real.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by snotvis View Post
          When you bought your copy of Phoenix it should have come with a lead that will only work with a specific type of transmitter, so just make sure that you get the right one when you do buy.
          That is not quite the way it works, the standard lead works with Spektrum/JR 'jack plug' connections. If you need anything different then you can buy a short adapter cable that connects to the standard Spektrum/JR jack plug at one end and to your choice of connector at the other end.

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          • #6
            Great replies already:will reply to all in this post

            many thanks moyesboy,
            I to ws sort of thinking of spectrum until quite a few folk poured water on the fire...
            and said look at FUTABA? remembering I am a complete novice at all this.

            In answer to your questions it will be Electric I will also be using DJI stabilisation(treat to myself) I have already had quite a few comments on this but I like the ide of DJI /Helicommand e.t.c.

            so was advised to go at least 7-8 chanel Radio? for the real flying (eventually)
            But would rather get a cheap RT for the sim? as long as it is up to the job I was even told I need a 8 channel just for the sim,to get the best from it??

            My phoenix is just the basic no RT.

            On the simn to begin learning to fly makes no difference what tx, but as you progress its best to use the same tx you fly the heli with, so the idle up switches and throttle hold switches are the ones you will use for real.
            Your comments above make real good sense to me and I think I would be happier going down this route than shelling out 700 hundred quid on an top RT from the off..
            I may well be able to integrate the final choice of Rt with the building,set up and pro lessons I am hpoing to take in UK? (if can all be arranged)

            many thanks
            keep the good ideas coming
            cheers Steve

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            • #7
              Hi Mike
              many thanks for your reply, I just will have the basic non RT version.
              I will have to take my time here,re choice of RT for the long term..weather it`s Spektrum or any other I finally choose,just do not wish to shell out for top RT just yet..just practice on sim and will go for cheaper version of RT for this

              all the best Steve



              Hi mate. It is a personal choice when it comes to radios. When you bought your copy of Phoenix it should have come with a lead that will only work with a specific type of transmitter, so just make sure that you get the right one when you do buy.
              Personally I like to use the tx I fly with when I practice on the sim...but you could get a cheapy such as a Spektrum DX4 to practice with (I have seen them sold on the BMFA for about £25).
              As far as complaints about Spektrum gear...I am completely satisfied with mine and have never had any issues - other people will no doubt have a different story. Remember that Spektrum does have the largest share of the market (I think) and because of that will also have the most complaints.
              My advice would be to buy mid range, 7 channel, 2.4GHz transmitter. Whichever brand you choose will do the job...but remember once you have picked a brand you are in a kind of long term relationship because of recievers, etc.
              Good luck and have fun.

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              • #8
                Hi Mark-T

                many thanks for your eply and for correcting the connection error re phenix sim much appreciated.

                all the best Steve


                Originally posted by Mark_T View Post
                That is not quite the way it works, the standard lead works with Spektrum/JR 'jack plug' connections. If you need anything different then you can buy a short adapter cable that connects to the standard Spektrum/JR jack plug at one end and to your choice of connector at the other end.

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                • #9
                  Hi Rich23
                  It will be Electric,that will be more than enough for me to handle with my state of health....
                  just will have to take my time to get this Right! I have made far to many costly mistakes in the past (can not afford anymore )!

                  all the best Steve
                  QUOTE=Rich23;845307]Hey

                  What heli will you be getting? Electric or nitro?

                  Rich[/QUOTE]

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                  • #10
                    You don't say which DJI solution you are going for, but do be aware that if you decide to go with a Spektrum transmitter that you';; need to select the receiver carefully as to get the best out of the DJI solutions you will probably need a more comprehensive fail-safe solution than is provided on the lower end Spektrum receivers. ( look for preset failsafe options, not just 'Smartsafe')

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                    • #11
                      Hi Mark T
                      Good of you to get back to me...

                      Receivers are we talking about the Radio Transmitter but the actual receivers in it? am I correct or dum Mark?



                      you don't say which DJI solution you are going for, but do be aware that if you decide to go with a Spektrum transmitter that you';; need to select the receiver carefully as to get the best out of the DJI solutions you will probably need a more comprehensive fail-safe solution than is provided on the lower end Spektrum receivers. ( look for preset failsafe options, not just 'Smartsafe')
                      I am not sure which version I am going for just yet,I was hoping to leave most of this higher technical matching to the builder of the Heli, well the upgrader of the Heli..... so the receiver is even more critical when using Spektrum does this caution apply to FUTABA e.t.c or just Spektrum Mark..so for example which RT would i have to look at when using something like the DJI system,if you have advice

                      I really do thank you mark

                      I am learning a lot very fast

                      regards Steve

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