Help: Phoenix & Futaba FF7 Super Setup

[zoobs]

First off sorry if this has been answered in a previous post (I did search honest) . Anyway I took delivery of my Phoenix sim yesterday (I bought it to teach myself to fly my Shuttle plus). I plugged in my Futaba FF7 Super FP-T7UPS PCM 1024 and proceeded to try and fly one of the training helis, I crashed immediately (hopefully because its not setup properly, otherwise this is going to be a very expensive hobby indeed). I tried to set up the radio but it doesn’t have my one preinstalled. Has anyone out there got the same radio as me and if so could you let me have your settings. Any help at all would be fantastic .
Thnx in advance from a new newbie.

[Ade_Law]

either the futaba 7c or 9c profiles will do the job perfectly.

Ade

[zoobs]

Still no luck


Ade thanks for the quick reply and sorry for the tardy response. I’m having the same problem as Vernon7026 in a different post. If I use a nitro model like the Raptor 30 as soon as I move the throttle it shoots into the sky and when I ease off a fraction the engine cuts and down I come. I inserted the adjustments that Warboysastro gave Vernon7026 but it doesn’t seem to make any difference. I tried setting the Tx to a fixed wing but my radio only has 4 model types, Glider, Acro, Hl2 and Hl2. I’ve tried both Glider and Acro but the results are the same? I’ve got a twister medevac (which I’m still not very proficient with yet) so I tried the electric contra model in Phoenix and I can control that a lot better. I know that contra helis are far easier to control but I just wonder if there’s something I’m missing.
Again any help would be much appreciated.

[Ade_Law]

It sounds like calibration to me do the bars in phoenix tx calibration move smoothly with the stick?

[Sieze2]

You need to calibrate the controller. Go into "your transmitter" in the left hand menu and click calibrate, and follow the instructions. When its calibrated make sure all the red bars move smoothly, and ensure the collective moves with the throttle. You might possibly need to invert some of the controls. This can be done by clicking controls, selecting your radio and then clicking edit. Yuo can invert by clicking the "invert box". By the way in the edit menu there is a scroll bar. I didn't notice it for weeks.

[zoobs]

Thanks guys for the quick replies. I'm off up to my caravan for the weekend so I'll take the laptop and my radio with me and hopefully I'll get some time to play around with it.
Cheers

[zoobs]

Another Thought


Again sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but a friend of mine who knows a lot more than me wondered if my problem might be the adapter. The adapter I asked for from Phoenix was the Futaba/Hitec round one. My friend wondered if the wiring was the same for my older FF7 and the new model? There is a guy on Ebay who sells the Futaba adapters and he offers the square one also a 6 pin, 5 pin and 4 pin round adapter so I wondered if anyone had similar difficulties. I also wondered if the service department at Ripmax might tell me if the trainer plug wiring between the two models was different.
Again guys any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers

[Ade_Law]

you have the right adapter.

if you go into the tx settings in phoenix do the bars move nice and smoothly as you move the sticks and use the full travel.

Ade

[zoobs]

The bars move smoothly but when you move the right hand stick to the right the red bar only goes about three quarter of the way over. I wondered if there may be something wrong internally with the radio. I am going to use a friends Sanwa 6000 and another friends FF8 if they both work would I be right in assuming the radio is goosed?
Cheers Zoobs

[Disc]

okay daft question are you in PPM on the tranny?

Or does it work in PCM mode or Both ??

other question is D/R or end points in the tranny been set up causing the issue or do they not effect the Sim at all ?

[Ade_Law]

run the tx calibration again and follow the instructions carefully. recheck your red bars and that should sort it.

Ade

[zoobs]

I’ve tried the calibration at least a dozen times and I think I’m doing it right. A friend has the Phoenix which is why I bought it. I’ve had a go on his one with his Sanwa 6000 and I manage, though not that great, but I feel with a lot of practice I would improve (which is, after all the reason I bought it) My friend is a reasonable heli pilot with a few years experience but he can’t control the heli using my radio either? When he bought Phoenix he told me he just plugged it in and away he went he did not do any fine tuning on the radio or the sim. When I plugged in my sim to my radio I eased the throttle up to about halfway and the heli shot into the sky spinning like a top. To let you understand I bought the radio from fleabay so I cannot vouch for its reliability. When I got it I put a crystal in, moved the sticks and the servos all moved on my Shuttle, so I assumed it was OK. I bought Phoenix to learn on over the winter and it’s been all down hill since then. I thought it would be just like my friend, plug it in then spend many an enjoyable winter evening learning to fly.
I’ll try calibrating again carefully and go from there.
Cheers Zoobs

[Ade_Law]

as disc said is the tx set to PCM or PPM?

Ade

[zoobs]

The tx is set to PPM. My friend is taking his laptop into work today and we are going to try a side by side comparison, then swap over the radios and do the same again.
Cheers Zoobs

[Johnc61]

hi zoobs, did you get this sorted? I have exactly the same problem. On or off throttle control on heli's. Planks are fine. Calibrated time after time. Getting frustrated!