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  • Phoenix training - Best stages for beginner?

    Howdy guys,

    I have now got my phoenix up and running with all of the updates.

    One thing I will say is how do you actually learn on this? Sounds like a dumb question, but I start out with good intentions (I am uber rubbish!), slow hovvering, wobbly circuits etc, but then all of a sudden, I am trying to go inverted and just being daft basically.

    Soooooo, big question is, how can I make this brilliant tool, actually help me improve my flying, is there sort of a stage one, stage two etc that people would suggest?

    Genuinely loving the hobby, but want to learn properly, so any tips would be much appreciated.

    Cheers guys
    Beam E4
    Trex 250
    MCPX
    120 SR
    Night Vapor
    Sukhoi su-26xp

  • #2
    Pretend its real. Get really annoyed when you crash and go and do something else for an hour. Its the pressure thats difficult to handle. With practice you'll find that you are in complete control, or you'll think you are.

    Chris
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    • #3
      I learnt completely off Phoenix.. I spent a year on Phoenix before I got my first heli.

      I learnt hovering in all Orientations, then circuits, then figure of 8's then just free flying until it all flows in easy it'll take time but it actually helps... ALOT

      A way to make it more realistic is to have a jar, and every time you crash on the sim, put 20p, or 50p into the jar... It will help you save for when you have a crash for real, and also help you not use it as a game
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      • #4
        Try to be structured about what you are doing, don't try to run before you can walk otherwise it degenerates into gameplay not serious learning.
        Nuff said,
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        • #5
          I struggle to discipline myself on the sim and have to make boundaries. To keep it tight I use the sportshall...hover in that and fly controlled circuits.
          For larger manoeuvers the flying field and try to stay in the mown runway area.. also difficult (for me)
          I pick one thing I need to work on to improve and one new thing I want to start learning and as that starts to happen then add the next new thing. Just work on those three in a session.
          Example: At the moment I've just got to good at backwards upright and do it a bit iffy for real at the field..so reinforce on the sim. Backwards inverted needs lots of work and thats in progress..for the third thing I was given my homework (by my sim teacher to be) which is long piro circuits within the runway area.. seriously finding that hard!

          I do take a break from the lessons and have a short play at things it'd be nice to do in the future - not so much working at them..more understanding them so that later when i do work at them it may be easier. As well as short periods of seeing how well I can really do with things I thought I was good at...like simple circuits..yeah, easy..now do tight orbits over the same spot and piro 180 and go round the other way or a flat nose in circle in the wind - just to remind me I'm really cr@p!
          PGK
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          • #6
            I know what the O.P's on about, it doesn't actually teach you to fly, it just lets you practise flying. if you cant fly to start with you're stuffed.

            Take the tutorial videos (of which there aren't alot for helicopters) , 'you fly in a circle using a combination of cyclic and rudder controls' brilliant!, what i want is big arrows on the screen saying move stick this way to do this maneuver e.t.c

            I find that im using flying fields where i can land on things, the one i used most though is the sports hall, only because there is circles painted on the floor that you can use for landing targets.

            i fly down the small red circles tail in, hovering and landing on each one on the way down, then then i fly back up them nose in to get used to the different orientation.

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            • #7
              start in the feild with a raptor 50 or trex 600 and when your good on that tri the smaller helis. bigger is easy and when you tri it for real go as high as you fell confatable i.e as long as you can see what your doing. this works for me and is my way may not be right but it is for me.
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              • #8
                I also have a jar by the computer when I'm on the simulator.








                Usually a jar of Carlsberg.
                JR Vibe Fifty fb (YS56)

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                • #9
                  Thanks guys, I have taken all your advice on board, which is much appreciated.

                  Unfortunately my graphics card has gone pop on my laptop, ebay dispute lodged! However, alienware replacement on the way, that should get it working!

                  Laurence, if you are reading, please book me in for a training session next week.

                  Thanks again.
                  Beam E4
                  Trex 250
                  MCPX
                  120 SR
                  Night Vapor
                  Sukhoi su-26xp

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