Piro Flips!

[GPTips]

Hi

When ever i'm online on Phoenix. All I see is everyone is so obsessed with doing Piros all the time.

I have a gripe probably cos I don't know how to do them.

Cheers

[Lynx.1677]

hehe, they are like the black art of the heli world!

[Mr.Brown]

Im one too1

[Eckchaz]

I don't know how to do them.

If feel adventerous.. have a look under "tutorials" on one of the menu tabs at the top.. theres a whole list of moves, explained with stick movements for you to try.. another place to look at is U-tube and Flight Training ..... Have fun!!

[p4ddy]

If feel adventerous.. have a look under "tutorials" on one of the menu tabs at the top.. theres a whole list of moves, explained with stick movements for you to try.. another place to look at is U-tube and Flight Training ..... Have fun!!

The thing is Duncan is a show off so he done reverse piro flips for the tutorials LOL

[Swashbuckler]

Thing is they are the basis for a lot of other moves, master them and piro wall of death and loops will come easy (er)

[Lynx.1677]

I can't stop doing them on the 450 Pro now at the field. Took me so long to get the hang of them and you can always improve so it's good to keep practising!

[Dave Rand]

Piro flips are a weird animal, mine seem to come and go ie look great nice and tight then slowly they get worst over a month then get better again. Still they are base for soo many moves and transitions it's worth spending the time

[p4ddy]

I couldn't agree more with the last 2 comments. My half piro flips were rubbish, then i started on full piro flips & have been practicing non stop for what seems like months maybe more & now i've gone back to trying half ones again & they are 200% better as i've learned better timing of the cyclic, giving me better transition between moves. My full piro flips are sometimes really good (well i think they are?) but then i can have a few off days were they are horrendous so i just keep on with them as i really want consitancy

[DanWright]

After watching the videos on phoenix I've started to try them... It ain't happening any time soon

[GravityKills]

in my opinion, piroflips are more a social phenomenon than flying technique.
You need piroflips for any 3D street credibility, right? Doesn't matter that I can't hover nose-in.

The real tough nut to crack is piro flight as such. The piroflips will then come basically for free.
What I'd recommend if anybody is listening -which is unlikely - is to start with piroing stall turns. That implies you can fly a straight line piroing.
Pulling up is relatively easy. The descending part is more exciting... approach it slowly.
But maybe that's too ambitious for most. On the other hand, the "traditional" way of learning (sim, stir stick, crash and repeat ad nauseam) doesn't seem particularly effective either.

[paul35]

I found this video really explains it well, It looks so easy

YouTube - ‪Russ Prince flying his Logo 600 (2)‬‏

[p4ddy]

I found this video really explains it well, It looks so easy

YouTube - ‪Russ Prince flying his Logo 600 (2)‬‏

That vid confirms what i've found, that when i do slightly smaller stirs then they look neater as it piro's a bit more before it levels each time & actually levels better. Also i give too much collective at times (read most of the time lol) but getting it right is bloody hard. Did you hear him saying about the disc always flips in one direction, yep piro flips not chaos (oops i've started it again now)