phoenix or realflight

[leonardo]

Hi

I've the impression that people here prefer phoenix to realflight as rc-heli simulator.

What are the reasons behind it? Better graphic? Better flight model? or perhaps it is “only” a price issue?
Is there anybody that has tried them both and can compare the features?
Realflight seems to be a consolidated software as it has been around for a while. It seems instead that the phoenix is quite new.

Cheers

-leonardo

[robgt]

I've only briefl flown Realflight - it seemed ok, but not excellent to me.
I didn't fly it for long enough to form a complete opinion of it though...
It was the case that Reflex was superior to it for helicopter simming though - and in my opinion, Phoenix is superior to Reflex for helis.

The work behind the scenes at Phoenix seems to carry on apace, with updates coming out quite frequently to improve performance even further.

I recommend Phoenix for heli pilots.

Cheers,
Rob

[trvo]

I second Rob, there's really no comparison between the 2 simulators, the Phoenix flight model is a fair amount better in realism, that also happens to be accompanied by good graphics and features...Roll on 1.04!

Trev

[golddust]

Only ever used Phoenix, so nothing to compare to really. But without a doubt it is very impressive indeed. And about to get better I understand!!

[Philimon]

I've owned and flown both extensively. In my opinion, RealFlight is the far more mature product. It offers features that are still on the developement path for Phoenix. Most notably, the RealFlight tutorials are not only recordings of specific manouvres, but also with a voice-over from the pilot in question.

BUT, as a newbie, I'd buy Phoenix. Its got better training aids. I used its hover training the other day to each someone how to hover in just 10 minutes. Also, with the following here, you'll soon feel left out of all the multi-player sessions. Plus, its around £45 cheaper.

My opinion: Buy Phoenix.

[rombonie]

Guys, can phoenix be used with the dx7? Just a thought.

Cheers Dor

[Gaza07]

Works fine with the dx7

[golddust]

Think just mention for JR or Spektrum when ordering as the cables are the same

[Ashley Davis]

Realflight is certainly more mature....old gimmer comes to mind.

[eskiserkan]

I have both of them . Used G3 for a year and couldn't achieve to run my JR 9X II and 10X on it . Then , bought a Phoenix after reading the review on Rotor World . What a difference . Graphics and physics are better than G3 . Flight characteristics are more real . No problem to use your own radio transmitter . And autos are also much more realistic than G3 .
The only problem with the Phoenix is crash modelling is worse than G3

[gazza]

Think just mention for JR or Spektrum when ordering as the cables are the same

Yeah they are all the same, 3.5mm Jack plug (Or 3mm) it's only if you order for futaba, Sanwa, Hi'tec etc you get an extra additional bit which the jack plug goes into and converts it to 6 pin Din or whatever...If you state JR or Spectrum they just dont include the additional bit...If you plan on using another TX eg Futaba then order the lead for that one..You get the best of both worlds then. If that makes any sense at all

[Fixxxer]

Surely the point is which is the most accurate in simulating the physical enviroment. I've only used phoenix & reflex but phoenix wins hands down on the important aspects. Real looking gfx are a bonus but its better to go with something that isn't a million miles from the real thing & with phoenix's developers being flyers themselves and UK based, this makes tech support etc that much easier.

[Philimon]

I agree. The more advanced ones flying, the more important it is that the sim is as realistic in flight performance as possible. The hovering training in Phoenix will be an invaluable aid for a newbie, I think.

Funny thing is that when I moved from RF to Phoenix, I found that a manouvre that I couldn't get right in RealFlight was much easier in Phoenix.

[leonardo]

Thanks guys, Phoenix seems the way to go.
Their web site make a list of compatible and non-compatible transmitters but walkera is not listed anywhere. Looks like I need a Mini DIN adaptor. I’m not sure however that it would be the same as the e-sky Mini DIN adaptor (that is listed).
I know that sooner or later I’ll have to buy a good transmitter but I wanted to delay till it was necessary ...say my next heli

Anybody knows?
Also can you recommend a good shop within the greater London area?

cheers
-leonardo