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    Hey all,

    Just wondering how realistic autos are in Phoenix? I've 'mastered' inverted autos finally on the sim, getting the flare just right. By mastered, I mean I can do them one after the other consistently and can accurately aim for the landing spot.

    I'm nit ready to try them for real (nerves), but how easy would I find it in real life? Or does phoenix simplify them, or make them seem easier?

    Cheers!
    Last edited by Planehazza; 02-03-2011, 07:32 PM.
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    I can't speak about inverted autos because I only dare do them in Phoenix, like you.

    I don't know if you do normal upright autos in real life, but, to me, normal autos are pretty close. About the same difference as general flying around is. There seems to be more float in the sim, but that could be fear factor when doing them for real.
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    • #3
      I find regular auto's easier in real life than the sim. I find i can't get the headspeed right on the sim or the correct foward speed. Maybe this is due to being able to hear the blades in real life much clearer & also you know which way the wind is blowing in real life & get a proper feel for it's speed.
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      • #4
        like the others i have never tryed inverted autos apart from on the sim but in real life i think that the autos are easier the right way up depending on what blades your flying on
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        • #5
          If you have it mastered in the sim you should be able to do it in real life... I find it 50 50, sometimes the sim is a lot easier and sometimes real life is easier..

          Just don't start flaring until you get near the ground .

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          • #6
            I hear what you're saying about the head speed dropping and floating in real life. In the sim I'm not afraid to let it drop like a rock to keep the blades spinning. In real life I think I tend to keep it floating too early and I stall it about 2 feet off the deck and just make it. Mind you, I don't do true autos for real - I just bring her into a stationary hover at about 6 feet and hit the hold switch.
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            • #7
              Yeah that's true, it's the fear factor in real life inverted ones sure are scary!!

              My mistake I make sometimes is flaring too far away from my landing site!!

              For autos you need lots of regular real life practice, into the wind helps a MASSIVE deal!

              Also 450s make for excellent auto practice. I started off from hovering autos to slight forwards flight autos away from me tail in.

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              • #8
                Cool thanks. I've been meaning to give them a go for real (normal, not inverted). Think I will next time we're out/. I'm thinking left to right, into wind preferably, from about 30 feet.
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                • #9
                  Sounds like a good idea Harry. I will bring the video camera on Sunday might get some utube footage lol


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                  • #10
                    Doubt I'll be flying mate sorry, lost a very close family member today

                    Next time though - IF you do a hurricane
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                    • #11
                      Sweet, if the sim is like real life I can now do inverted auto's with a half piro flip just before landing.

                      Now all I need is a 700 to try it with! Lol.
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                      • #12
                        I find phoenix too stupidly easy.
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                        • #13
                          I personally think the hang times on phoenix are better than you will get in real life, but the process is the same.
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                          • #14
                            Very un-realistic imo.

                            You can give it full negative all the way down, then full positive to flare and land.
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                            • #15
                              OK Harry. Sorry to hear about your loss

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