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  • Problem using Phoenix and Sanwa RD6000 Super TX

    I've just installed it, and it all seems to be running fine apart from one little annoying problem.

    The RD6000 Super TX has a large part of the front of the case aluminised plastic. I've found that whenever any part of my hand touches this while using the sim (very hard to avoid since I fly with the pinch method and it's such a large area part!) the interface goes loopy and keeps flashing up the 'please plug in or turn on your tx' message constantly on and off.

    As you can imagine this is making it nigh on impossible to use since the connection goes dead momentarily every time this happens.

    I've had a quick look inside the tranny, and there are no obvious loose connections, earth leads or otherwise. The buddy socket is on trailing wires rather than a pcb and all seems okay there.

    Has any one else tried it with an RD6000 Super and if so did you have this problem? Or is it likely to be a dodgy earth connection in the adapter lead?
    (The interface itself sems to be working fine)

    Any suggestions gratefully received.

  • #2
    Drop the guys at runtime an email, see if they can shed some light on the problem, or get a set of marigolds
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    • #3
      I was planning to email them, just to see what they say.

      Of all the ways I was thinking I could overcome it, marigolds hadn't occured to me!

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      • #4
        Simplest ideas are always the last thing you think of but might make ya hands sweat a bit tho Let us know what runtime say, they replaced a faulty interface for me 10 days ago and thier customer support was superb.
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        • #5
          This Sounds like a faulty adapter to me. Drop then an email or if you brought it from a shop get them to replace the adapter
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          • #6
            Email sent. I'll let you know what they say.

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            • #7
              Had a reply Friday promising to send me a new adapter on Saturday, though it hasn't arrived as yet. That's more likely to be my crap postal service than anything else though.

              I have been investigating over the weekend, and have managed to pin it down to certain conditions.

              On my laptop (the only pc I have anywhere near good enough) it only happens when the laptop's power lead is plugged in for charging. When I'm running it off the laptop battery, it's fine!

              (I know the instructions say make sure your tx isn't on charge, but nothing is mentioned about the computer!)

              This reinforces my thinking that it might be some kind of strange earth loop problem. Maybe my charger is really electrically noisy and the Phoenix interface just can't cope.

              Anyway, just have to wait and try it on the new adapter when it arrives.

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              • #8
                And I bet your laptop chargers mains lead is only live & neutral with no earth, a lot are these days but it still seems strange. Have you tried the charger plugged in and the laptop on your lap, I know it won't be easy as your tx will get in the way but I'm thinking that maybe your body will already be acting as the earth so you might not get the glitching as opposed to on the table where the only ground would be from your hands. Just a thought.
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                • #9
                  Do you know what with that 'just a thought', I think you may have hit the proverbial nail on it's proverbial head!

                  The new lead arrived, and I have tested some more. It is performing better than the last one, in that I don't get any 'reconnect' messages and pausing, but still not perfect.

                  When running on battery only, it's fine. When using the laptop charger (which does indeed only have live/neutral), with the laptop on my lap, it's fine (which isn't as hard as might be, since I use quite a short neckstrap). Then if I put it on the table, the problems start!

                  Displaying the tx stick inputs you can see that they're dancing all over the place and the heli basically just chicken dances! (This would be great if this was what I was trying to make it do!)

                  I will be letting Phoenix know, but in the meantime is there anything else I can do, or is this just endemic of cr@ppy laptop chargers these days??

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                  • #10
                    Glad things are improving I'm no electrical whizz so can't really understand why it's only doing it when the power supply is connected as a battery has no earth either, I'll have a think but the only other suggestion I can offer is to Google your laptop model + earth problem and see if anything comes up.

                    Failing that just keep the battery charged, almost like flying real electrics helis
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                    • #11
                      Just to keep the info train up to date, I have heard back from Phoenix and they say they have some testers looking into this and hope to come up with something within the next few days.

                      Fingers crossed.

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