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    As a newbie I took the sensible decision to purchase Phoenix sim. I have a Blade 400 which still has the training wheels on! But after many hours I can now hover a full battery, which I'm very proud off :-)
    When using the sim it doesn't seem the same as real life. Which is the best way to set up the dr/expo, is it all done in the sim by editing the model with the tx at standard settings or do I set them on the tx.
    In real life I have a dr/expo setting of 90 / +15 for elev and aile while rudd is set to 100 / inh.

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    Originally posted by shades View Post
    As a newbie I took the sensible decision to purchase Phoenix sim. I have a Blade 400 which still has the training wheels on! But after many hours I can now hover a full battery, which I'm very proud off :-)
    When using the sim it doesn't seem the same as real life. Which is the best way to set up the dr/expo, is it all done in the sim by editing the model with the tx at standard settings or do I set them on the tx.
    In real life I have a dr/expo setting of 90 / +15 for elev and aile while rudd is set to 100 / inh.
    You can setup either way. I prefer to do everything via the TX myself.

    Have a look at this post - you might find it useful

    http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/451228-post12.html
    Velocity 50 (w/ Rossi R57) | Atom 500 | T Rex 450V2/Sport Hybrid

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    • #3
      Thanks, I'd already read that thead and it was useful. I was just trying to be sure where to edit the settings. If I leave all settings standard in the sim will changing the settings in the tx be reflected ? I just want to make sure that it's as real as possible.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by shades View Post
        Thanks, I'd already read that thead and it was useful. I was just trying to be sure where to edit the settings. If I leave all settings standard in the sim will changing the settings in the tx be reflected ? I just want to make sure that it's as real as possible.
        Yes all D/R and expo settings made on the TX will be reflected in Phoenix.

        Also if you are using the configuration detailed in the linked post (i.e. Using HELI mode in ur TX) changes to pitch and throttle curves on your TX will also behave in Phoenix in a similar way to your real heli.
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        • #5
          Ok, that's good at least I can now try some forward flight in the sim knowing it's going to be close to ten real thing. Are there any tutorials out there on how to approach this? Whenever I have tried ff in the sim the heli soon reaches a fast speed and disappears into the distance!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shades View Post
            Whenever I have tried ff in the sim the heli soon reaches a fast speed and disappears into the distance!

            Practice, Practice and more Practice.

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            • #7
              Have been out today and practiced some simple ff stuff.
              Have now gone back to the sim and have noticed that the sim has expo of +20 in the model settings while my tx has expo of +15. Which expo will phoenix use? Is it just a case of which one is greater?
              Practice again ;-) it's the future !

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              • #8
                Originally posted by shades View Post
                Have been out today and practiced some simple ff stuff.
                Have now gone back to the sim and have noticed that the sim has expo of +20 in the model settings while my tx has expo of +15. Which expo will phoenix use? Is it just a case of which one is greater?
                Practice again ;-) it's the future !
                It will use both - so the amount of expo you have will be the two expos added together. Phoenix has no knowledge of what settings your tx has
                Velocity 50 (w/ Rossi R57) | Atom 500 | T Rex 450V2/Sport Hybrid

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                • #9
                  That explains why phoenix is so sloppy. Would it best to set the model to zero expo and just use the setting in the tx?

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                  • #10
                    If you want to set expo via the TX then yes.

                    However the disadvantage of using the TX to adjust expo is that it will be the same for all models (note you can have two expo values on the DX6i selectable on a toggle switch).

                    If you set expo in Phoenix then you can set expo for each model independantly.
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                    • #11
                      That makes perfect sense now. Thanks very much :-)

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