New model available

[Stuart]

ParkZone Habu

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[discoferret]

Thanks but still no Velocity or Srimok.

[Kozmyk]

Oops !! Hit a tree at the airfield.

BTW which airfield is that in the real world ?

[heliphil]

still needs some work doing on it - pilot and control surfaces are not quite right.

[Dave Rand]

New model available

Phoenix is becoming a joke!!!!!
Somones getting a back hander :-(


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[shikari_chaos]

Phoenix is becoming a joke!!!!!
Somones getting a back hander :-(


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Surely Phoenix should work with the heli companies to get a good looking/feeling heli on the sim.. It's down right ridiculous if not! It works well for both Phoenix and the heli company! Almost like free advertising for both! I'd also go as far as getting one of the canopy companies to work with them so you can fly the canopy you just bought or are thinking about buying and see what you like. Again it'd be great advertising for the canopy company and phoenix would have another reason why people should spend money on there product over others out there. I know you can add your own stuff but TBH it works best for everyone if it's already there!

[Kozmyk]

Someones getting a back hander :-(

It's not really surprising that Phoenix are incorporating more models from their distributor Horizon Hobby.
You could hardly expect otherwise.

On the other hand I think they could make the Trainer versions a little more friendly. Especially if they're seeking to showcase models from their distributor in a good light.
My mSR is much easier to fly in real life and the SLY_Blade_400 (a downloadable user model) is apparently more like the real thing than the regular Phoenix version.
They need to do better work on the flight models.
Expert fliers are able to compensate for the inaccuracies but us humble beginners don't have those skills yet.

A proper manual is sadly lacking also. The .htm help files are insufficient.
While there is provision to alter many variables, they are not well explained in the help files.

Despite all that I think it's quite a good program and am not yet tempted to look elsewhere for virtual practising.

[bolders]

It's not really surprising that Phoenix are incorporating more models from their distributor Horizon Hobby.
You could hardly expect otherwise.

On the other hand I think they could make the Trainer versions a little more friendly. Especially if they're seeking to showcase models from their distributor in a good light.
My mSR is much easier to fly in real life and the SLY_Blade_400 (a downloadable user model) is apparently more like the real thing than the regular Phoenix version.
They need to do better work on the flight models.
Expert fliers are able to compensate for the inaccuracies but us humble beginners don't have those skills yet.

A proper manual is sadly lacking also. The .htm help files are insufficient.
While there is provision to alter many variables, they are not well explained in the help files.

Despite all that I think it's quite a good program and am not yet tempted to look elsewhere for virtual practising.

Ive tried the SLY_Blade_400 profile and tbh I think it flies too heavy and slow. I know the blade doesnt have a huge amount of punch but this profile is way over the top.

Boggy posted some suggestions to make the blade model more like the real thing (the phoenix model is way to twitchy in the hover) which I find work quite well but I cant find them at the moment but I will keep looking.

[Boggy]

set hover stability up to 130%
and lower the votex lift loss till it feels right(cant remember what i set it at) thats all it needs to feel much more like the real thing

[bolders]

cheers boggy that saved me a bit of effort lol.

Have you done anything to reduce the roll rate of the phoenix model as I feel that it is a bit fast. My blade certainly seemed a lot slower the first time I done a back flip with it but that may be partly due to time dialation as I was crapping my pants and just wanted the heli to get back upright again lol

[Scautura]

I'm currently using SPaRX's Blade 400 from here: SPaRX's Phoenix Blade 400 Variant File - HeliFreak

It feels a little less twitchy than the original version, and while I have Sly's, I haven't tried it because he's based it on his upgraded B400 (better servos), so I feel it won't be as accurate.

I haven't been flying long enough to get a proper feel for the real vs virtual versions, but this is definitely closer than the original one.

[Kozmyk]

Duct tape is like the Force; it has a Dark side, a Light side, and it holds the universe (and helicopters!) together.

You don't happen to be an old roadie do you? That's an old roadie/stagehand joke, if you substitute "Gaffer" for "Duct".

Thanks for the variant link. I'll try that when my Tx recharges.
Note to self "Look out for an 8 x AA batt box for using in DX7 on Phoenix"

Boggy's tweak works wonders, and simple to back off too if I feel I'm making life too easy for myself.

[Scautura]

You don't happen to be an old roadie do you? That's an old roadie/stagehand joke, if you substitute "Gaffer" for "Duct".

Nope... Am not, have never been, and never intend to be, a roadie - although, that said, I have worked as a stagehand, but that's not where I heard it. To be honest, I have no idea where I first heard it, but I've been using it as a sig for 15 years (if not more).

I don't like the original B400 on Phoenix because it feels way too twitchy compared to my (now rebuilt) real one - I've been flying the T-Rex 450 SE more than the B400 until I found this model. The other thing that I find "interesting" is that the Phoenix B400 doesn't seem to be capable of auto-rotation; the blades just seem to stop when I try it, but I do the same on the T-Rex and everything is fine.

[chris jones2.4]

they need a velo, n5, trex 550,700e, it'll be much better then

[Mutley]

they need a velo, n5, trex 550,700e, it'll be much better then

Seems absurd the lack of models coming.


JR Sylphide,
Any model by Miniature Aircraft but Tempest and Fury would be a good start.
Velocity
Vario - Camera
Fuselaged machines

The list just goes on