Pkeonix and sleepy DX6i.

[erisaman]

Hi, I have Phoenix 2.5 and had my DX7 programmed in. I've now changed the DX7 for a DX6i (yeah, seems a backward step but I'm hoping it's not) and connected it up last night.

I created a blank memory for it, chose the single swash and calibrated it exactly as per the Phoenix on-screen instructions.

When I went to use it - on the simulated Trex 250 and then a 450se - I was giving it full throttle and the helis were barely lifting off the ground. What more do I need to do?

As you may have guessed - I'm a complete newbie at this side of things, so I've not programmed in any throttle or pitch curves, thinking the DX6i had to be blank.

[davew]

Firstly for real life heli flying I can tell you the DX7 is a better Tx than a DX6i. It is much more responsive. However you'll ot notice a difference on Phoenix.

I think the problem you have is with swash selection although I can't remember which you should have but its not the 120 deg CCpm setting.

Someone will be along with a better answer but I'm just reassuring you that its not the TX.

Dave

[Weebl]

Recalibrate it again and give the sticks a very slow stir. Don't bother flicking any switches when it asks. Set idle up in the Tx and it still works.

I have had this before, recalibrate sorted it.

[erisaman]

its not the 120 deg CCpm setting.

Thank you - I had chosen the 90 degree single servo as I knew that much.

I'll try weebl's suggestion and will re-calibrate.

Thank you both.

P.S. I've changed to the DX6i because I needed two tx's and at my age, I felt it would be easier to learn to program one type of tx rather than learn two. As for responsiveness - I guessed the DX7 would be better - but again, age and ability dictate that I may progress to relative fast forward flight (currently on slow figure 8s) but that I'll never become a stick-banging pensioner on a turbo Zimmer .

[erisaman]

Well it appears that Weebl's suggestion has paid off - I now have a 250 missile again - but one which is relatively steady and climbs to the heights as it should.

Thank you both.

[tiddler]

Hi erisaman,
You may find this thread of some use as well
http://www.rcheliaddict.co.uk/phoeni...tionality.html

[Weebl]

I'll be honest tiddler, I don't see the point?

You set your Tx up to change the curves in idle up, does it matter if the Tx does it on 5 channels or Phoenix does it using 6?

Am I missing something?

[tiddler]

The 6 channel set up allows all the DX6i controls to be utilised in Phoenix for both helis and fixed wing models. Such as.

Idle up.
Throttle hold.
Gear up / down.
Flaps.
Wheel brakes.
Bomb drop etc.

Ok its not necessary to use all these functions, but I just think if it'll do it, then why not

[Weebl]

The 6 channel set up allows all the DX6i controls to be utilised in Phoenix for both helis and fixed wing models. Such as.

Idle up.
Throttle hold.
Gear up / down.
Flaps.
Wheel brakes.
Bomb drop etc.

Ok its not necessary to use all these functions, but I just think if it'll do it, then why not

With you.

Idle up works anyway, as does throttle hold. Gear, flaps, brakes, bomb etc do not, but with your way they will.

Don't fly planks except as a bit of light relief after an intense session but I can see why some would want all the features enabled.

Ta

[bolders]

The 6 channel set up allows all the DX6i controls to be utilised in Phoenix for both helis and fixed wing models. Such as.

Idle up.
Throttle hold.
Gear up / down.
Flaps.
Wheel brakes.
Bomb drop etc.

Ok its not necessary to use all these functions, but I just think if it'll do it, then why not

I agree. this is my prefered setup also and i think its easier to implement although throttle hold is on a different switch. And as tiddler mentioned it does mean I can fly planes without switching program and still have flaps/ gear working.
Also I found that throttle hold didnt work straight away with my DX6i. I had to do a bit of tweaking to get it sorted.

[Weebl]

I agree. this is my prefered setup also and i think its easier to implement although throttle hold is on a different switch.
Also I found that throttle hold didnt work straight away with my DX6i. I had to do a bit of tweaking to get it sorted.

I prefer TH to be on the same switch as it is for real.

I just turned TH from INH to ACT and it worked, What tweaking did you have to do to get that working?

[tiddler]

I prefer TH to be on the same switch as it is for real.

I just turned TH from INH to ACT and it worked, What tweaking did you have to do to get that working?

Are you talking about Throttle hold or Throttle cut ? Cos I cant find any throttle hold section in my DX6i's menus Except in the throttle curve menu where it would normally be set to -3 across the board.

[Weebl]

Throttle hold is set to 0 on a default setup so that works as is.

Throttle cut needs changing from INH to ACT, then that works as is.

[bolders]

I prefer TH to be on the same switch as it is for real.

I just turned TH from INH to ACT and it worked, What tweaking did you have to do to get that working?

In phoenix i had to map throttle hold to channel1 (throttle) and tweak the operating range from 0-100 to 50-100. Also when calibrating i had to add a couple of clicks of negative trim and then reset it after calibrating. I know this sounds vague and not a good explaination but it was a while ago that i used this technique. I would have to set it up again to be able to give you the reasoning for doing things and the exact procedure i used.
Basically what all this ****ing about achieved was to get the throttle hold (internal to phoenix not on the tx) to trigger when the left stick was at its lowest position.

[tiddler]

Throttle hold is set to 0 on a default setup so that works as is.

Throttle cut needs changing from INH to ACT, then that works as is.

Ok Gotcha

I just got a tad confused when you said you set the T Hold From INH to ACT.

I have my T Hold position set to -3 (for my actual heli) just to be sure the motor is well and truly off