Blade 400 3d how do you find it ?

[invasion]

Just wanted to know if you guys think the balde 400 3D is realistict in Phoenix?

Seems really hard to me and not the same as my Blade 400 3D.
In Phoenix just seems to want to move about all over the place although I updated the other day and I think they have made a few changes to it ??

Give me the Trex 500 and I am fine one of the few I can fly in Phoenix. The thing is, I want somthing that is close to my Blade so the practice I put in is going to convert to flying for real...so do I use the Trex 500 to practice or the Blade??

[matt27]

i'd agree
my 400 is much easier

[invasion]

I am glad you said that was thnking it was y PC or TX or somthing.
So do you use the 400 or train on somthing else on Phoenix?

the thing I dont like most on Phoenix with the 400 it always wants to go backwards and if you lose it a bit it goes off into the distance!!

[tourerjim]

I've flown B400, as a micro heli flyer didn't think it was that bad" but try something like the 450 sizes listed on Phoenix.
I gave up on my 400 over year ago its still like new but found it to be my hardest ones to fly.

[Decky]

After many repairs I've stopped flying my B400 until I can control it on Phoenix. Is that ever likely to happen if I keep on practicing or have I bought a pup? Has anyone hovered a B400 on Phoenix fo any length of time? If so what's the secret? There's an appreciable delay between my DX6i stick movements and the same stick movements on Phoenix which makes it harder to keep stable.

[heliTV]

I have my real model setup without any "taming" and use the Blade 400 3D variant in Phoenix (there are 3 variants on my version).

there's no doubt that the sim isn't quite the same as real life, but in truth find it about the same although on a 2D screen, judging perspective is more difficult...

Hope this helps

[Delta7]

Better harder to fly on the sim, so when you come to fly in real life it will be easier. I found this with my raptor too!
You can also slow down phoenix sim speed, that should help.

[Decky]

Not sure if slowing down the sim speed helped, it now takes a few seconds to react to stick movements, by that time it's drifted off a long way.

[invasion]

Can you fly it at all on the sim or does it crash straight away ?

[Decky]

I think I'm guilty of over-reacting a bit because of the response delay. It starts off ok then as I correct movement it drifts more and more away from centre until it topples. If I try and move the sticks less it takes even longer to respond to corrections and drifts away quicker. I have about +15% expo on all 3 channels but have had it up to +50%.

[Boggy]

for a slightly more realistic feel click
model /edit

then in the main rotor tab set
hover stability to 125%
vortex lift loss to 30%

this will give you a much more natural feel to its hover and that quirky little sinking feel you occasionally get when you move the collective.

AFAIK the reason the blade isnt exactly accurate is in the earlier days of phoenix updates,when this model was introduced they just coppied over the honey bee king settings

[Decky]

Thanks Boggy that's much better. So it's not cheating by making it easier to hover than the real one? if not, I'll practice with those settings.

[invasion]

That is more like flying for real much better!!

[Decky]

That's great. I think the main problem I had with the real B400 is that even with the training gear on, it would do handstands before I could find the trim setting that results in similar stability as on Phoenix .

[Boggy]

tbh that was to make it easy the hover stability could be dropped to around 115% for a more realistic feel.

dont forget to create a new variant(click the "new" tab and name it in the box) or you will loose the settings next time you fly