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  • Struggling to make the sim fly anything like the real model?

    Hi All,

    So far, the majority of my sim work has been with the raptor 30 sport model. I've used the training gear version, and then removed the training gear in the edit options menu as it seems closer to the real thing.

    But, its still waaaaaaay too sensitive in cyclic compared to my real heli, and i'm chasing it all round the field.

    I've tried various permutations of expo, ranging from 0-30% (via the transmitter), i've also raised the head mixing ratio from 0.85 to 1 at a friends suggestion, which helped but not by much.

    Any other suggestions on what to tweak to try and make it real a bit more realistically? I under stand this is a massively subjective thing, and trying to alter the sim to be like the heli is a bit reverse, seeing as the sim should be the 'perfect' heli.

    Thanks

    Matt

  • #2
    On the sim, negative expo makes it more sensitive. Try +30% on the sim.
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    • #3
      Turn the Sim speed down instead, I personally would rather learn like that.
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      • #4
        Turn the sim speed down to 75-80 percent and speed up as you grow in confidence.
        All the best STEVE.


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        • #5
          If you are using a separate memory on your transmitter for the simulator (you should be), reduce the ail/ele travel using dual rates and/ or travel adjust.

          The way I look at it, I treat the sim as a separate helicopter. The things I would adjust on the heli (like head speed), I adjust in the sim; everthing else I adjust on the radio. Once you've got a usable configuration, it tends to be portable between all sim models.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Brian Gifford View Post
            On the sim, negative expo makes it more sensitive. Try +30% on the sim.
            Sorry, should have been more clear, when i said 0-30% expo, i meant i've tried between zero and positive 30 percent expo to try and calm it down. It works well for the minor changes required for hovering, but once you get past the 'dead zone' where the graph starts to ramp back up in sensitivitly, i find its really difficult to calm down, so i'm trying to make it more accurate, and linear if possible.

            Cheers for the recommendations, i'll try reducing the simulation speed.

            I do have it set as a different model in my transmitter so i'm free to make any changes needed without effecting my actual model.

            Thanks

            Matt

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            • #7
              Try turning the Cyclic slider down. Along with some expo that should calm things down a bit.

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              • #8
                What do you mean by "simulator speed"?
                Mike
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                • #9
                  Go into System Setup.. Its like flying in Slow Motion but you can decide how slow.
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                  • #10
                    Oh Ok, why would you want to do that? Surely it's what DR and Expo, and ATVs are for.....
                    Mike
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                    • #11
                      Cheers chaps, i'll try all your suggestions

                      Matt

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                      • #12
                        Well combined with 20% expo (transmitter), 90% simulation speed, and 87% on the cyclic slider, the sim raptor flys similar (but not perfect :P) to the real raptor.

                        Excellent, thankyou chaps

                        Matt

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                        • #13
                          Hi Folks,

                          I understand the expo theory to calm things down a bit..... and I know on the system setup how to slow things down a little on the sim...BUT what is and how do I change the cyclic slider??????

                          Stuart

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                          • #14
                            Cyclic Tuning on the 'fine tuning' tab

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