Phoenix and Vista...

[Nerra]

Both have their advantages and disadvantages. The reason why OSX is so cheap is that it can only be used on hardware bought from Apple. This is one of the reasons that OSX is more stable than windows, it only has to work on one type of hardware where as windows needs to work on everything (including macs).

The people that are slagging off Vista now are the same people that were slagging off XP 5 years ago, "XP is sh1t, I'm sticking with Windows 98", get over it and accept change.

I work with both macs and PC's and I like them for different reasons. I really don't believe there is a "superior" platform as they all have too many downfalls. Its like comparing a van to a sports car. The sports car might be faster or look better but when you need to move a couch or fridge its not very useful is it.

At the end of the day its a tool, decide which job needs doing and then pick the right tool, stop trying to convince a plumber to buy a clio sport.

[raptorheli2]

i'm thinking about pheonix but my main system runs mostly vista ultimate altough it can dual with xp if i wanted but i'm used to vista now. i find vista fine, no issues up till now but is the general opinions here that pheonix will not run on vista or what?

cheers

[Nerra]

The latest version of Pheonix does run on Vista but there is a performance hit.

[AGW]

Phoenix runs on Vista no problem..!!!

I have tested it with all versions of Vista without issue!!!

If you get a performance hit you need a better spec system or you nedd to turn off the aero interface crap..!!

If you get the DX9 error you just need to re-install DX9 from your Phoenix CD. Don't re-run the full setup! Just browse the disc and run the DX9 setup.

Cheers

Andy

[applematt]

Why oh why is there sooooo much debate about OSX and windows?

I love osx and have been a born again osx'er for 4 years... BUT i still need windows to do my job - autocad... it doesnt run on osx, i wished it did!

But boot camp has done wonders... i now run vista on my mac book pro with autocad, phoenix and many other non apple apps... and they all run better on the mac book pro than on the pc... thats a quad core 2.4ghz machine pc from mesh with sli graphics. Work that one out - windows works better on a mac - laugh it up pc users apple hardware rules!

Maybe all this variation causes pc users the problems and not microsoft... or the otrer way round... i'm dizzy thinking about it now

[raptorheli2]

thanks for the replies about vista compatability.

i must say if you pc can't run aero then you need a better pc or go back to xp.

cheers

[robgt]

Why oh why is there sooooo much debate about OSX and windows?

There isn't - there are 3 fanboys out there in internetland who like to argue amongst themselves and make it appear that there's this huge discussion

LOL
Cheers,
Rob

[Disc]

On thursday just ordered a new computer

Won't be running windows

But it is intel powered and I will sell this G5 power mac on ebay should go for around 300-400 pounds.

Robgt: your PC on friday at the 3DX flyin made my final decission how fast did it work? I could of sworn I saw you winding it up before you used it or should I say tryed to use it LMAO

but we all prefer diffrent things bit like the helicopters we fly.

To me the Windows O.S is like the Century Hawks full of slop and a real pig to get it to work right

And OSX is like the Vibe 90 and Knight 3D or T-rex 600n Bloody stunning and leaps ahead of the rest. not perfect by any means but dam good none the less

[Bubblefish777]

Does the latest Phoenix version run fine on Microsoft Vista?

I run Vista Ultimate in a very high spec machine and everything maxed out on a 30" wide screen at something like 2650*1600 and it rockets along....oddly even with SLI and two 8800 GTX XXX cards it crashes if I use 32bit colour.... !!! Need to turn it down to 16bit colour... but this is the only thing that causes an 'occasional crash'

To end all debate about windows and OSX even when stood in the Big Apple shop in London is really really simple. Walk over to the software selection and point at the 150 or so titles and it shuts everyone up. It doesn't matter if the Apple is super duper amazingly ***y styled ultra fab.... there's simply no feckin' software for it comaritively speaking. Like pointing at your ferrari and wibbling how much better than a 3 series BMW it is....there's no petrol for the ferrari and the BMW has unlimited supply. If you want to pose or only run specific software for specific purposes then by all means buy a Mac. If you want something that you can find software for just about anything you can imagine...buy a windows based PC.

My son and I have the same set-up for PC etc...here's his ..... the PC screen is on the desk.....Phoenix on that is great

By bubblefish777, shot with Canon EOS 350D DIGITAL at 2007-08-08

[robgt]

Robgt: your PC on friday at the 3DX flyin made my final decission how fast did it work?

Hey, that was Edders PC
Mine worked fine on Saturday evening - and thats my spare too
LOL

Still not running a decent sim on your home computer of choice then?
LOL
Cheers,
Rob

[Disc]

Hey, that was Edders PC
Mine worked fine on Saturday evening - and thats my spare too
LOL

Still not running a decent sim on your home computer of choice then?
LOL
Cheers,
Rob

No decent Sim on the Mac because no company thats Decent makes one for it

[robgt]

You keep telling yourself that
There there

LOL
Cheers,
Rob

[Disc]

You keep telling yourself that
There there

LOL
Cheers,
Rob

I will

[Bubblefish777]

LOL......I heard a rumour that Apple were going to make an Intel Machine that could have Vista loaded on it.....Now that i WOULD buy..... In my humble opinion Apple should offer this as their styling is really good. I've never met anyone who thinks their stuff looks crap. I'd buy an apple with those cool se-through speakers....IF I could run a windows OS. I have no love for Bill (well...I do a bit...I make a living based on the revolution he started....so can't and shouldn't bite the hand that fed me) but there's no getting away from the fact his OS is very prolific and 99.99% of all software is written for it first...and will continue to be as long as his market is the largest commercially for software vendors.

[Nerra]

I'm running dual core and a Radeon X1900 and since installing vista, Phoenix seems to have taken a performance hit.
I do have a 30inch apple display though, so its probably a result of aero running at 2650x1600 in the background. I'll try turning off aero tonight to see if ti makes a difference.