New model coming soon...

[Si Goodchild]

Guys,

I wrote to the phoenix guys a couple of weeks ago saying that they really ought to have a Raptor 90 available to us and that with the rising popularity of foamy EDF Jets, a few of these would be welcome too. Within minutes they got back to me and said that the Raptor 90 SE and 3D are being modelled now and that they would welcome any EDF Jet data from me. A few days later I sent them a handful of photos of my EDF Typhoon and some performance details. They got back to me the following day saying that the info was all they needed and last night e-mailed me a test-model to try!

Only a couple of tweaks were needed to get it flying exactly like the real thing (less thrust and a bit less drag) and I was really impressed by the speed and personal nature of their responses to me.

So, well done Phoenix team and you guys can look forward to another model being released soon. Please share my joy.

Si G

[Nick B]

Nice one Si

Love to see my 600n up,the ones on pheonix look a little old,they need a NSP on there and the LE's

[t43er]

More models are always a welcome! Anyways the ones I would like to try would be any flybarless helis!

[moonmanflyer]

Velocity and elyq's would be nice for the future, but it most be hard keeping up with the ever changing world of helis, seems like there are new models coming out all the time

[tiddler]

So we have yet another reason to say Phoenix is the best sim around

[Dedcalm]

More models are always a welcome! Anyways the ones I would like to try would be any flybarless helis!

Would it not be possible to just tweak the power setting by +20% to give you a flybarless feel? I dont have an FBL setup but assume the only real difference is the power...

[Si Goodchild]

Nice one Si

Love to see my 600n up,the ones on pheonix look a little old,they need a NSP on there and the LE's

That just requires a new skin, in fact the LEs are available on this forum - check out the sticky on the Phoenix section of this forum. ChemicalBro (amongst others) have added skins which you can download, save in to phoenix and then select (via model/edit in phoenix). The aircraft flies the same but with a modified appearance. The great thing is that you can edit these files (they are 1000 by 1000 pixel bitmaps) in any photo editor so you can easily do your own designs. I've done a few, including my own Raptor (from photos), an RAF-roundel design and silhouette models by simply saving the bitmap as a solid lump of black: useful for learning orientation in bad lighting conditions. Read the whole thread, though as the naming convention is critical.

Si G

[Si Goodchild]

Would it not be possible to just tweak the power setting by +20% to give you a flybarless feel? I dont have an FBL setup but assume the only real difference is the power...

...and perhaps stability? All these are adjustable anyway, so simply make a copy and tweak away! Have you ever tried a 5Hp Raptor 50? Or how about an EDF F16 with 5:1 thrust to weight ratio? I have, and it didn't cost me a penny!

Si G

[Ashley Davis]

Phoenix haven't modelled flybarless onto the sim yet, it's something I'm in discussion with Phoenix on as we will need to make some physics updates and flight model changes to get it right.

[ChrisP]

That just requires a new skin, in fact the LEs are available on this forum - check out the sticky on the Phoenix section of this forum. ChemicalBro (amongst others) have added skins which you can download, save in to phoenix and then select (via model/edit in phoenix). The aircraft flies the same but with a modified appearance. The great thing is that you can edit these files (they are 1000 by 1000 pixel bitmaps) in any photo editor so you can easily do your own designs. I've done a few, including my own Raptor (from photos), an RAF-roundel design and silhouette models by simply saving the bitmap as a solid lump of black: useful for learning orientation in bad lighting conditions. Read the whole thread, though as the naming convention is critical.

Si G

Now thats cool, may have a look at this myself. I'm no canopy artist, but often like to mess around with stuff!

[DarkSoul666]

I hope they will bring out a Ely.Q Vision 50 Competition.
I would suggest, we email them...everybody who wants one.
So they can see that there is a lot of interrest ;-)

Greetings
Sebastian

[robgt]

Well done Si for taking the time to do what's required to get a new model into Phoenix (taking the pictures)!
It's not too much effort and the reward is well worth it IMO

If there are models missing from Phoenix that you own and would like to see in there (anyone) - take some pictures as described on the model images page on the phoenix website and send them in.
Don't worry if you're not comfortable with tweaking the flight model after the physical modelling is done, it can be arranged by Phoenix

Let's see what models you guys have got then!
Cheers,
Rob

[D1zzy]

Nice one si, looking forward to the new models!

Personally would love to see a Srimok 90 in there too - wish I had one to provide necessary snaps

[Si Goodchild]

I hope they will bring out a Ely.Q Vision 50 Competition...

Quickest way to make this happen is to take the photos yourself and send them in as per the instructions on the website. It would probably be useful to include a few additional pieces of information sauch as all-up weight and control throw limits etc. That said, I'm not sure that the physics of the ELY Q will be much different from, say, a TREX 600 sport, so simply building your own skin to overlay the TREX 600 would most likely achieve 95% of what you're after: I can't believe that these heli's fly that much differently to one another. (Puts flak jacket on!)

It's for this reason that I submitted my Typhoon EDF model: there's nothing like it on Phoenix at the moment.

[Si Goodchild]

...Personally would love to see a Srimok 90 in there too - wish I had one to provide necessary snaps

Very true, but lets wait for them to sort out the 10-year old Raptor 90 first eh! In the meantime there's always the Aurora Ultimate 90 which is my Phoenix heli of choice...

..and then there's the e-Aurora...!