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    Has anyone else with a Mac tried running Phoenix within vmware fusion? I've recently tried it and it seems to work, performance wise, for me.
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    hum.. you'll get better performance under bootcamp as it is just running windows and not OSX at all...

    that said it is known to work with the other solutions like parrells and vmware although some versions there were also a few issues ?

    For me I am waiting for aeroflight deluxe OSX version to come in at midlands. I no long require Windows espically after its last major f@ck up on me... plus side got 30 gig back of my HD though
    Mark
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    • #3
      Hi All,
      Running Phoenix on parallels at the moment. Generally OK, though goes a bit flickery(?) after a while. Have heard that with "Snow Leopard" you don't need parallels, but not tried it yet. Is that where vmware comes in?
      Would be good to be clear of the polluting effect of MS once and for all!
      Thanks,
      Bill.
      CX3 - Trex 250 - Phoenix - DX7........
      CC 500 is built, finally tested ......and still in one piece...some of the time!!

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      • #4
        No I got vmware fusion separately but as you say I saw a difference from running it on Leopard and on Snow Leopard
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Disc View Post
          hum.. you'll get better performance under bootcamp as it is just running windows and not OSX at all...

          that said it is known to work with the other solutions like parrells and vmware although some versions there were also a few issues ?

          For me I am waiting for aeroflight deluxe OSX version to come in at midlands. I no long require Windows espically after its last major f@ck up on me... plus side got 30 gig back of my HD though

          Good choice waiting for Aeroflight for OSX, I have it its very good. Just one annoying thing with the jackplug that fits into my DX7 and DX6i if you push it in the socket all the way it doesn't register with Aeroflight, but if you pull it so it almost pops out it will work. Very annoying if you knock it it disconnects, I've tried a washer behind it, but it just doesn't do it.

          Matby its the wrong sort of jack plug that comes with Aero, I'll have to get another one and try the depth of the plug. Other than that it its fine for planes but I use Heliex HELI-X - News for my imac I feel its better for Heli sim and cheaper!
          Last edited by Smudgyboy; 21-10-2009, 10:08 AM.

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          • #6
            I tried to use Parallels on a Leopard system but would not work then moved to Bootcamp and its perfect. Some users seem to have no problems with Parallels anyone no the reason for this?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Smudgyboy View Post

              Matby its the wrong sort of jack plug that comes with Aero, I'll have to get another one and try the depth of the plug. Other than that it its fine for planes but I use Heliex HELI-X - News for my imac I feel its better for Heli sim and cheaper!
              What controller do you use though for heli-x ?
              Mark
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Disc View Post
                What controller do you use though for heli-x ?
                I use a Logitech game pad Logitech > Gaming > Gamepads > Rumblepad? 2 at work (can hide under desk) and a usb heli controller that came with a pc flight sim for £9 at home. You can use any controller really you just calibrate it assign a key on your keyboard for idle up 1 and 2, away you go.

                With the pad you can put a lot of expo in to give you a feel of a larger trans, in fact its a very good sim, that's all I use now.

                Phil

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                • #9
                  ah prefer the feel of a proper tranny type controller and for that reson i'll skip it for now
                  Mark
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by billydude View Post
                    Hi All,
                    Running Phoenix on parallels at the moment. Generally OK, though goes a bit flickery(?) after a while. Have heard that with "Snow Leopard" you don't need parallels, but not tried it yet. Is that where vmware comes in?
                    Would be good to be clear of the polluting effect of MS once and for all!
                    Thanks,
                    Bill.
                    does this mean you can run it without vmware of any kind?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dav20043 View Post
                      does this mean you can run it without vmware of any kind?
                      Nope, You must have a way to Run Windows inside/virtual desktop etc etc

                      Apple has yet to cross the bridge where they can run Windows stuff without Windows itself in any way shape or form.

                      I expect one day Apple will offer a way to install say Windows 7 and any windows program you run will just run and appear like its inside OSX like any other program but that's some way off and certainly not in Snow Leopard.

                      Snow Leopard isn't a bad upgrade and worth doing though
                      Mark
                      www.uavaerialservices.co.uk
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Disc View Post
                        Snow Leopard isn't a bad upgrade and worth doing though
                        The Snow Leopard upgrade is only £25, and you only get £25s worth of upgrade, if you know what I mean. There's some very minor user-interface tweaks and not much else in my opinion. As I understand it, much of the improvements are behind the scenes, making the OS more 'future-proof'.

                        I've done the upgrade, but am struggling to see where my £25 has gone.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Steve View Post
                          The Snow Leopard upgrade is only £25, and you only get £25s worth of upgrade, if you know what I mean. There's some very minor user-interface tweaks and not much else in my opinion. As I understand it, much of the improvements are behind the scenes, making the OS more 'future-proof'.

                          I've done the upgrade, but am struggling to see where my £25 has gone.
                          Ah its understanding the changes a lot of its the under pinning of the OSX so you don't see it but trust me it's all there!

                          But yes its lots of changes you don't see which is why people don't think its a good 25 pounds spent but it is
                          Mark
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                          • #14
                            I've found my mac much quicker since the Snow Leopard upgrade.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by choppertastic View Post
                              I've found my mac much quicker since the Snow Leopard upgrade.
                              Yup Finder under went major operation and has made it snappier and Safari/Mail also got a major overhaul making them a lot quicker as well.

                              The change to Finder (desktop stuff) to us may seem like nothing but it was a major bit of work and is a vast improvement.

                              The other major thing is the new CPU traffic controller in the next year or so we should see stuff get even quicker... or at least the machine shouldn't seem to run slow

                              Also the new opengl stuff and the ability to shift GFX intensive work loads to the GFX CPU's should also be a good win long term

                              Very glad I put a nivida 8800GT in my mac pro also means my other GFX card connected to my 32" LCD for watching movies does a good job as well
                              Mark
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