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  • Phoenix seems easier with DX7?!

    I had been using Phoenix with an Esky 0406A transmitter which I bought as a bundle.
    But then as I decided to get a Spektrum DX7 I decided I should really give that a go and see if worked ok.

    What a difference, having created a new profile and configured it as prompted by Phoenix and then went for a flight with a Blade CX2.
    Using the DX7 it seemed much smoother and easier to control, to the point that I managed some good hovering a few reasonable circuits of the sports hall and field.

    Compared to the Esky it just seemed a whole different experience.
    The question is, is this just due to me practicing on my Blade mCX, or is it just that I am used to the DX7 as I use it with the mCX, or is it that the DX7 does make a difference over the cheaper tx?!

    Whatever the answer, its the DX7 for me now on the sim when I get a chance.
    Now what time can I stop work and have some fun?!
    Andy
    A helicopter beginner!
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    Phoenix Simulator
    Blade mCX
    Blade mSR
    Blade 400 3D
    Spektrum DX7

  • #2
    Originally posted by cyberman View Post
    Now what time can I stop work and have some fun?!
    Now?

    I use a FF6 tx with Phoenix, I suppose really I should try the FF9 to see if there is any difference with these Tx's perhaps its something to do tonight... just have to knock up an adaptor lead for the FF9 1st...
    Rob


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    • #3
      I'm not convinced that it makes sense to practise sim with a coax. The stick movements to fly circles are not the same as on a single-rotor heli. You might just as well jump into the cold water and start getting used to it (hint: Start with a jetcopter, T-Rex 700, N9 or Vibe 90, simply because they are the biggest helis we've got).

      Anyway, here is one difference between the Txes:
      The DX7 has a mechanically smaller travel range of the collective stick, compared to cyclic.
      Woohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoo -Barbra Streisand

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GravityKills View Post
        I'm not convinced that it makes sense to practise sim with a coax.
        My main reason is that being new to helicopters I am trying to get to grips with nose on flying and the controls in general with different orientations.
        Using a co-ax also means that I am getting 'similar' practice when I use my mCX.

        Once I am happy and confident I'll move onto bigger heli's on the sim, but on the basis of the crashes I had when I tried some of the bigger ones for fun it wont be just yet!!

        Its good fun though, and definitely cheaper than pranging the real thing!!
        Andy
        A helicopter beginner!
        _________________________________
        Phoenix Simulator
        Blade mCX
        Blade mSR
        Blade 400 3D
        Spektrum DX7

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        • #5
          On the subject of the first post, I went from a 4 ch Esky to a DX6i, then to a DX7. In each case, it seemed easier to fly on Phoenix. I do think the quality of the Tx affects the flying. (Well, actually, I would hope it does, otherwise I've spent a lot of money for nothing. )
          Brian


          More enthusiasm than skill

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cyberman View Post
            ...to get to grips with nose on flying and the controls in general with different orientations.
            As an explanation, not to argue and mildly OT:
            The reason I don't like / recommend coaxes is because they are too forgiving.
            One of the main problems a beginner faces is that you must maintain concentration without any "blackouts" for five minutes.
            It sounds easy, but it is most definitely not.

            What usually happens is
            - attention slips
            - you correct the wrong way
            - the heli gets a life of its own
            - you get a rush of adrenaline
            - either you manage to save it
            - or you crash
            In either case, you learn fast.


            With a coax, attention slips, so you put down the Tx. Get a coffee, answer the door bell. Come back, pick up the Tx and it still hangs where you left it
            Woohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoo -Barbra Streisand

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            • #7
              i think the quality of the tx is definately helping, like you i stil fly my coax just for learning face in but i never use a coax on phoenix(did the first night i had phoenix) but felt i was wasting my time doing so. so moved on quickly to the blade400 which is the helicopter i got. personally i think you would be best doing that as well yes you might crash a lot but the repairs are quick and cheap on phoenix

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