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  • #1

    Latest update - sound?

    I just D/L'd the latests update after not bothering for a while.
    how come all the nitros sound like electric? is it just my PC or is it the same for all of you? The trex700 sounds like a 450.

    Still the same overpowered unboggable gravity defying problems, and it seems I have to redo my reduced power variants, hover seems a lot less stable than before, it seems a sliding landing is now possible but it does seem to dig in and crash a bit much.

    However the tinny unrealistic sound is doing my head in!
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    You can play with the sounds in the edit area,but your right,they sound gay
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    • #3
      Yep, the sounds are the absolute worse part of Phoenix. I wish they would resample them and try to get them sounding realistic, the rest of the sim rocks.

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      • #4
        Gordon, if you bring up the flight info window and look at the rotorhead RPMs you will find the models do infact bog very similarly to real models, you just can't tell very well from listening to the sounds. Gravity is also significantly stronger than version 2.0, try an auto and put in full negative pitch on the way down and you will see what I mean. Where gravity does go a bit odd is that the machines will only accelerate to certain speed in a tail slide (for example), outside of that gravity should be pretty realistic. This last bit is due to a cap on the top speed of the model as without it you can make them fly unrealistically fast.
        Last edited by Ashley Davis; 07-09-2009, 02:31 AM.
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        • #5
          I think there is a bug in the nitro sound.
          On the Vibe .90 I can barely perceive the bogging.
          Switch the sound to "micro electric" and you'll hear that it actually bogs like hell.
          I haven't investigated this, though.
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          • #6
            I emailed Phoenix to complain about the annoying and completely unrealistic sounds from the nitro's...

            They replied that you can adjust them and that they had been complimented on the new sounds...

            yea right,, from adament leccy pilots maybe....... and no matter how much you play with the sounds they still sound wrong!!

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            • #7
              I turn the volume off, it annoys thehell out of me while I watch tv especially the notros, for me it adds nothing
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              • #8
                I know what to do............! when next flying record the sound next time on Phoenix play the sound then your flying will sychronise.
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                • #9
                  You might be able to hear the bogging if you fiddle with the sound settings but you can't seem to feel it in the heli becoming sluggish.
                  The sound is annoying, but it doesn't seem right to me flying it silent.

                  Its very worrying if phoenix are in denial about the sound being wrong. Its so wrong it should be flagged up as needing a fix. If demo'd next to one of the other decent sims it will just not sell with the sound as it is. Yuo have to do more than a demo to get used to the dynamics and decide what is more realistic, but the sound is an instant bad impression and on this beta release is clearly not of merchantable quality.
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                  • #10
                    the sounds are direct sound samples from Duncan Osbornes helicopters. Maybe all that's worng here is the way the software is modulating the sounds for RPM loading as the samples themselves cannot be wrong, they are direct recordings of a real model.
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                    • #11
                      There's something wrong, or the nitros are using electric sounds by default.
                      If the original sample is of a real heli then its not being reproduced properly.
                      I realise Ash doesn't get to listen to real helis much being an electric only man
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                      600n pro BeastX Align DFC head bls251, 3xbls451, align gov, 600d, 2in1
                      trex500, BeastX DS510 swash, Beast X cutr and carve head DS520 HK3026-1900, Align 425D blades, 5S4200 rev'trix, K&BDD dampers, AR6200
                      "450" superframeSTK, align DFC head v2tail, hk22281-8 on 3S 9650w9257gear commander 55A align 325D hitec digitals Tarot ZYX, AR6100e
                      MCPX kbdd tail and blades, miniaviation bats

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                      • #12
                        well, that used to be true but these days I'm flying a T-Rex 700 nitro and Velocity 50 nitro
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by whopper View Post
                          the rest of the sim rocks.
                          I Was on there the other night and didnt even notice sound effects (must have been tired )

                          as for the rest they still need to sort multi-player stuff out they havin grief trying to get into sessions (have done the port thing)......
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                          • #14
                            Hi,

                            Sounds are indeed not the best. Can be done much better. The sounds are also not played correctly, open one of the wav files in media player, sounds totally different. Mailed support about it and it should have been fixed with the latest DirectX SDK for Xaudio. But it did not. Hope they will fix it in the future.

                            For turbine I created my own [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E394yN9YZY8]YouTube - F 16TurbinePhoenixRC[/ame],
                            EDF see [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t98GWbZ2ggY]YouTube - Custom EDF Sound PhoenixRC[/ame]

                            Heli sound not done yet as only flying planes lately

                            Cheers!

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