multi player question

[JezUK1]

Sometimes when I go on to Phoenix into the online section sometimes it may stay there seven people in a room but when I join I can only see one. Can anyone tell me why this is happening?

Also last night I was on the phone to a friend and we both went into the exact same room but I could not see him and he could not see me but we could see the one other person who was in the room. Is this a glitch in the program? Can you put some light onto this please?

[Geek]

Yes it was me on the phone
we couldn't see each others models but we could watch the host.
we also went in to other sessions and still no joy we tried running a session the other couldn't get in and a passworded one was no good in the end we gave up.
Both Jez and I had meet down a flying field but was to windy and the cows scared us too so went home to fly online but no fun to be had by us. MOO
Moo over I mean moan over
Please help us
cheers Paul

[robgt]

There are a few suggestions on the Phoenix website support page that could be worth looking at.
Scroll to the bottom and have a read through the port forwarding stuff to see if that helps.

Cheers,
Rob

[Geek]

Cheers Rob I have tried the port forwarding thing mine has been alot better untill last night. Will you be going to Charmouth at the end of the seasion
Thanks again for the help.
Cheers Paul

[Heliheaven]

I think that it's fair to say that some routers don't do what they are supposed to. I suffer from this problem. I have been in rooms showing 3 or 4 flyers and I am only able to see the host.

My router allows me to assign a DMZ - Demilitarized zone- (Completely open access to the internet with no ports blocked and no firewall cover) This is designed for running a server and the like and is NOT recomended for your average computer as it leaves you open to attack - however by assigning my external ip address to my local computer Phoenix online worked properly.

The problem seems to be that once you are behind your router and especially if you are on a home network you have limited or no acccess to the online system.
The router I am using is a Speedtouch (as supplied by Tiscali.) I know that it is not working properly by other tests so I have a new router coming and I hope this will let me fly online again.

[JezUK1]

I did e-mail Phoenix about this and this was there reply:

Hi Jez

Phoenix uses a "peer to peer" system for connecting to other players in an
online session, which means that you connect to each player individually.

If your router or firewall is blocking connections with your friend and/or
other users, then you may only be able to see a limited number of players in
a session.

Phoenix uses UDP Ports 26500 - 26505 to communicate online, so you should
"open" or "forward" these ports using your router's setup menus to your
computer's internal IP address to improve connectivity.

There is a great deal of information and instructions on how to accomplish
this on the internet.

One such source is PortForward.com: PortForward.com - Free Help Setting up Your Router or Firewall

Best Regards

Phoenix Support

Like Geek said we have made sure that the ports are open etc... Maybe its like Heliheaven said.... Just some routers just don't like to play fair.. Aw well Geek there is always next time when the wind has died down and them cows are not trying to kill us lol.

[robgt]

I have a feeling it is as you guys have said... some routers simply not playing ball.

Sad for you!

Cheers,
Rob

[JezUK1]

If it want the cows out to get us in the field its the internet.. lol Thanks for your help anyway

[robgt]

Don't forget you fly a remote control cow herder... er... helicopter

LOL
Cheers,
Rob

[JezUK1]

Don't forget you fly a remote control cow herder... er... helicopter

LOL
Cheers,
Rob

This is a very good point... At one point we did think of powering up my little blade400 so we could get out of the felid alive lol. Thankfully the cows got board and moved away lol. RUN GEEK RUN.........

[D1zzy]

This has happened to myself and a few others using Phoenix recently, it's rare but definitely not unique. No router here and all necessary ports are open and confirmed. It's more likely a bug yet to be replicated by the Phoenix team.