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  • Really twitchy controls

    Wow, I never realised that the move up from FP to CP would be that different.

    I've been playing with Phoenix this afternoon and I think I spent the first fifteen minutes just ploughing the Blade 400 into the ground almost on take off before I got the hang of how to lift off.

    Now it moves off to the left upon take-off but I have read that it is perfectly normal to do that.

    The controls are really twitchy though. Moving the stick even a millimetre makes such a huge difference.

    On the tx for my little Blade mCX, there is a dual-rate mode that seems to give me a shallower curve. I've looked at the handbook for the DX6i but it's all gibberish to me (at the moment, i'm learning).

    Would someone be able to help me by suggesting settings for the DX6i that would soften the controls a bit please? I've searched the forums but the search terms I used were obviously wrong as I couldn't find anything that was similar to my problem (I don't doubt someone has also asked the same thing and been provided a response but I just can't find it).

    I'd be happy if someone could tell me the search terms I should have used, or just point me to a thread instead please.

    Many thanks

    HRD
    Blade mCX
    Blade 400
    DX6i

  • #2
    Forget the settings in your radio, do it in phoenix.

    Go to simulation/edit aircraft/fine tuning & reduce your control expo, say -20% on all. It softens the stick inputs on the comp heli as you would in your tx in real life.

    Oh, make sure you select the standard blade 400 all others are as mad as a box of frogs.

    Good luck
    You can teach a man everything. Apart from experience.

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    • #3
      Excellent, many thanks.

      I'll give that a go tomorrow when I get home from work.

      Cheers

      HRD
      Blade mCX
      Blade 400
      DX6i

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      • #4
        Thanks for the help, I dialled in the expo and it seems to smooth it out a bit. It's still twitchy but I can maintain a hover for about ten seconds before it veers off. I also ticked the Heading Hold function too which aided me massively

        It still pulls left and forward but i'm learning to compensate slowly.

        I reckon it will take me a week of daily flying before I have got a reasonable hover going, which I reckon is an OK period of time to aim for.
        Blade mCX
        Blade 400
        DX6i

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        • #5
          try trimming it out with the slide controls on the tx also check if you have any wind set on phoenix
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          • #6
            Phoenix is very unhelpful to new pilots,as is the blade 400 or any small heli. I use 70% rates and 20% expo to start. Try the bigger helis first. I don't think you meant FP to CP as there is not a big jump for hovering. There is a big jump from coaxial to single rotor. The dx6i isn't too bad to understand, but there is a lot of it. Just ask a question when you don't understand.There' lbe a lot of people who look at the answers.
            Chris
            Flasher 450 Sport. Assan GA250 with 520 tail servo, MKS DS450 cyclic.
            Multiplex Cockpit Tx, DX7, DX6i
            Blade 130-X, MSR, MSRX
            Phoenix Sim

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            • #7
              Sorry yes, I meant coaxial to single rotor.

              I'm still learning the terms here and boy are there a lot of them!
              Blade mCX
              Blade 400
              DX6i

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              • #8
                On Phoenix the TRex 500 lifted off and immediatelly drifted left until someone on here suggested dropping the tail rotor wash from 80% to 20% - problem solved. It now flies more like the real thing.
                Shaun.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by shaun.e View Post
                  On Phoenix the TRex 500 lifted off and immediatelly drifted left until someone on here suggested dropping the tail rotor wash from 80% to 20% - problem solved. It now flies more like the real thing.
                  I support this - took the same advice for my Rexy and it worked fine.
                  Martin

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by shaun.e View Post
                    On Phoenix the TRex 500 lifted off and immediatelly drifted left until someone on here suggested dropping the tail rotor wash from 80% to 20% - problem solved. It now flies more like the real thing.
                    Perfect. Many thanks. I can hover tail in and land without training gear quite happily now.

                    Well, for about twenty seconds anyway, after that I tend to over-correct.

                    With training gear on the Blade, it's a lot calmer and much less twitchy than before.
                    Blade mCX
                    Blade 400
                    DX6i

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