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  • Phoenix- Thoughts of a Newbie

    Hi, Everybody. I would like to share my experience with Phoenix, as a complete newbie.

    Just a bit about me- I'm 54. In my early 20's, I flew control line planks for 3 years, but then got married & money was tight, etc. I enjoyed the flying, but other things got in the way. (like kids, a mortgage, etc )

    So last year someone bought me a PicooZ for Xmas, and it was interesting but frustrating. So this Xmas, someone bought me an Esky Lama. That was it, I was hooked. already looking at what to buy next

    I found this forum, and saw that all the newbies were advised to get Phoenix. I was lucky enough to see someone on here selling his at a good price, so I bought it. (Thanks, Mikee!)

    So, if everyone isn't bored yet, my thoughts about Phoenix: -

    IT'S BRILLIANT!

    And now a more considered critique - the CD installed perfectly, and I then went online and upgraded to 2.0q. Again, absolutely no problems, a breeze to update.

    I connected my bog standard Esky 4 channel Tx, and it calibrated 1st time, no problems. I was able to fly a heli within minutes of starting.

    I looked at the available models, and saw there is a Blade CX2 and a Lama. Both helis are roughly the same size and flying characteristics as mine. I tried them both, and apart from the tail not rotating as fast as it should, the flying characteristics are indistinguishable from the real thing. I looked at the model, made a quick adjustment, and the heli piros a lot faster.

    Now, my lack of flying experience means that I can't say that the other models are as realistic, but I'm sure they are.

    I have tried some of the bigger helis, and they are quite a handful! It seems to me, though, that hours of practice with Phoenix will mean it will me a lot less of a shock when I upgrade to a bigger non-coax heli. Also, that once I am (hopefully) flying something bigger, I can practise manoeuvres on Phoenix before trying them on the flying field.

    So, once again a big thumbs up for Phoenix.

    Last point - how does Phoenix stack up against other sims on the market?

    Well, I got FMS with my heli. It's good enough to teach you what control does what, but that's about it. I also tried HeliSimRC, another free sim. It's better than FMS by a long chalk, but not in the same league as Phoenix.
    I also tried some other free sims that are around. They are not even worth a mention, collision detection a joke, physics so unrealistic.

    So, if any newbie has made it to the end of this post, I would just like to endorse what all the experienced guys say on here - Get Phoenix as soon as you can. Long term, it will a) save you a fortune and b) improve your flying.

    All the best.
    Brian


    More enthusiasm than skill

    And proud recipient of 3x sigpic

  • #2
    Good post
    Dave

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    • #3
      Good advice, i have Clearview and Aerofly and although they are not as good as Phoenix, they are a pretty good sim, to anyone reading these posts and your not sure what to expect or which one to buy, goto Youtube there are vids of every sim on there
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      • #4
        Great post, many thanks.

        I fully intend on getting Phoenix once I have made a decision on what heli and tx to get, to see if I can get everything in a discounted package.

        It's either Trex450 or Blade 400 so far.

        I'm looking forwards to learning on Phoenix to be honest a i've heard such good things about it.
        Blade mCX
        Blade 400
        DX6i

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        • #5
          Brian I chuffed as nuts you love the sim.. have many years of free upgrades and enjoyment

          This item was well sold to someone that appreicates a quality product as It is

          i think it's the best sim out there at the moment
          Mike

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          • #6
            Thanks, Mikee. The boss/wife is now giving it "are you playing that b****y game again??" Game?

            Never mind, it is absolutely brilliant! All I have to do now is learn how to fly a CP in Phoenix before I buy a bigger heli!
            Brian


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brian Gifford View Post
              Thanks, Mikee. The boss/wife is now giving it "are you playing that b****y game again??" Game?

              Never mind, it is absolutely brilliant! All I have to do now is learn how to fly a CP in Phoenix before I buy a bigger heli!
              Brian i got a boss just like that great post onwards and upwards i got phoenix for crimbo im loving it hopefully by the spring i should be able to more than hover my beam lol

              Cheers Jim
              Cheers all Jim
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              • #8
                Originally posted by beerdeor View Post
                Brian i got a boss just like that great post onwards and upwards i got phoenix for crimbo im loving it hopefully by the spring i should be able to more than hover my beam lol

                Cheers Jim

                LOL. Thanks. I've been practising on Phoenix since I got it. I'm trying to hover a Blade 400, and really struggling! as you say, onwards and upwards!
                Brian


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                • #9
                  How do you find the Beam, Jim? I'm trying to decide what heli to get when I upgrade, so any input would be welcome.

                  Brian


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                  • #10
                    Brain i have no experience of any other 450 but i love the beam it does as i tell it mainly and by speaking to other beam owners around it seems to be a better built machine than the rex 450 (just what ive been told) before all the rex owners start on me lol
                    The blade is a twitchy little begger on phoenix i struggle myself with that my favourite has to be the raptor 50

                    Cheers jim
                    Cheers all Jim
                    Beam e4 I LOVE IT
                    Trex 450 Airwolf in progress
                    walkera 4g3(complete pants
                    Blade MSR Quality
                    speccy dx6i
                    PROUD OWNER OF 1 EGS
                    If it flys fly it if it doesnt fly drink it

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                    • #11
                      Just remember.. a sim is not real life............ i does'nt make ya shit ya pants when you **** up and then get it down safely.. nor does it cost or mean anything when you crash

                      If you want real life realisaim then fly the heli and use a step by step routine and perfect your flying as you progress
                      Mike

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                      • #12
                        Thanks, guys. I've been trying the B400 cos that's one of my options when I upgrade - I am on a limited budget, and it's quite attractive as it includes the DX6.
                        Brian


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                        • #13
                          Brian, I have the Blade and personally think she's a beauty to fly. The sim one is a bit naughty compared to mine, but then mine does have HS65mg servos all round.

                          If you get the Blade then do yourself a major favour, get as many Lipos as you can and swap the original connectors for deans. I have 4 lipos for my one, and it's just about enough for me, though sometimes I'd like a couple more. LOL

                          As to Phoenix, you're spot on, I don't think my flying would have progressed so far so fast w/out it, in fact I think I'd still have trainer gear on but for the confidence and training i've got from Phoenix.
                          John

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jboweruk View Post
                            Brian, I have the Blade and personally think she's a beauty to fly. The sim one is a bit naughty compared to mine, but then mine does have HS65mg servos all round.

                            If you get the Blade then do yourself a major favour, get as many Lipos as you can and swap the original connectors for deans. I have 4 lipos for my one, and it's just about enough for me, though sometimes I'd like a couple more. LOL

                            As to Phoenix, you're spot on, I don't think my flying would have progressed so far so fast w/out it, in fact I think I'd still have trainer gear on but for the confidence and training i've got from Phoenix.
                            Thanks, John. I'll take that on board. You can never have too many lipos.
                            Brian


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                            • #15
                              good post mate im waiting to get Phoenix from my mum n dad in march 4 ma b day as i am only 12 and have been told i have to wait booooo!!!!!!
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