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    Morning all this might be a really stupid question But has anybody tried to use pheonix on a ps3 is it possible?? ive done a bit of research that would suggest its not but maybe you folks know better

    Cheers all Jim
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  • #2
    Okay....

    No Chance at all, the Sim needs Windows XP or Vista and an x86 intel CPU Or an AMD chip

    PS3 is powered by an IBM Cell CPU and no way will windows run well on it

    If they made a Linux version of the sim then maybe it would by putting Linux on the PS3....
    Mark
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    • #3
      Even with a Linux version and running it on the PS3 wouldnt be worth it as Linux cant access the 3D hardware how it would be needed to run the sim, as I know at one point the homebrew coders HAD managed a certain grab of the 3D hardware but Sony soon patched the hole.

      What WOULD be good would be a native PS3 written sim with a Tx addon or a PS3 dongle thingy, but the odds on that would be slim at a guess as im guessing the mass market wouldnt be there unfortunately (but we can live in hope lol)

      Mark.
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      • #4
        why not just wait for them to bring out RC Stunt copter 09.
        that is if its still been made.
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        • #5
          Well in theory it could work in future one of two ways .... the first would be be messy.

          Recently there have been murmurings within the virtualization community about 'faking' hardware acceleration in software alone. It would not be a great solution, but it may work to the point where it would handle less intensive graphics work. Ie, Phoenix on minimum settings.

          So it would look like this; ps3 -> running ubuntu -> running virtualbox/vmware -> running xp -> running phoenix.

          Like I said, messy. But I think feasible. The second way looks a lot nicer.

          It would be by running Phoenix in Ubuntu using WINE. [Wine is essentially a way to run windows software on linux without having to install an entire windows operating system in a virtual machine].

          The last time I looked into this Phoenix with several patches ago, so I dont know if they have moved on from using Directx [a way of drawing graphics favoured by microsoft] in the same way.

          Sometime ago I spent a bit of time hacking around with Phoenix and WINE. I managed to get it to install, and load a little. But then hit loads of directx errors. There may still be some posts I put up on this forum about it at the time.

          In the end I stopped hacking away at it for a number of reasons:

          1. no one else was interested in offering some help (and my knowledge of directx is limited)

          2. I started using another machine for phoenix [which was running windows]

          3. other things came up and I just couldnt dedicate any more hours to trying to comb my way through the log files and WINE documentation.

          It is a really big shame that the developers of Phoenix have not looked into providing Wine support. There are many many games out there that were written for Windows, and run fine in Linux - so the methods are proven. It may be as simple as four or five libraries that have to be over-ridden.

          I really wanted to be able to post up a howto guide on the subject because I think it would have been of value to our community. I dont have the time now to return to this project... and nor frankly the desire and I too feel that Phoenix is getting worse.

          Hopefully a Phoenix developer sees this and is able to spend some time in getting this to work.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by blackbrabus View Post
            why not just wait for them to bring out RC Stunt copter 09.
            that is if its still been made.
            because it'll be pants?????
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Boggy View Post
              because it'll be pants?????
              I put my natural talent of not been able to fly my blade down to that game.
              Blade 400 3D
              Futaba S3153 tail servo
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              I will not be buying any more carbon parts until I can fly
              Current status:-It flies, but for how long lol

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pompeyjohn View Post
                Well in theory it could work in future one of two ways .... the first would be be messy.

                Recently there have been murmurings within the virtualization community about 'faking' hardware acceleration in software alone. It would not be a great solution, but it may work to the point where it would handle less intensive graphics work. Ie, Phoenix on minimum settings.

                So it would look like this; ps3 -> running ubuntu -> running virtualbox/vmware -> running xp -> running phoenix.

                Like I said, messy. But I think feasible. The second way looks a lot nicer.

                It would be by running Phoenix in Ubuntu using WINE. [Wine is essentially a way to run windows software on linux without having to install an entire windows operating system in a virtual machine].

                The last time I looked into this Phoenix with several patches ago, so I dont know if they have moved on from using Directx [a way of drawing graphics favoured by microsoft] in the same way.

                Sometime ago I spent a bit of time hacking around with Phoenix and WINE. I managed to get it to install, and load a little. But then hit loads of directx errors. There may still be some posts I put up on this forum about it at the time.

                In the end I stopped hacking away at it for a number of reasons:

                1. no one else was interested in offering some help (and my knowledge of directx is limited)

                2. I started using another machine for phoenix [which was running windows]

                3. other things came up and I just couldnt dedicate any more hours to trying to comb my way through the log files and WINE documentation.

                It is a really big shame that the developers of Phoenix have not looked into providing Wine support. There are many many games out there that were written for Windows, and run fine in Linux - so the methods are proven. It may be as simple as four or five libraries that have to be over-ridden.

                I really wanted to be able to post up a howto guide on the subject because I think it would have been of value to our community. I dont have the time now to return to this project... and nor frankly the desire and I too feel that Phoenix is getting worse.

                Hopefully a Phoenix developer sees this and is able to spend some time in getting this to work.

                I bow to your massive knowledge! I understand roughly what you're saying, but wouldn't have a clue how to implement this
                Brian


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Brian Gifford View Post
                  I bow to your massive knowledge! I understand roughly what you're saying, but wouldn't have a clue how to implement this
                  Well thanks for the compliment, but believe me I really know very little about this subject. Just enough to be hack away and be dangerous. If I get some free time in the next week or two I'll see if I can find anyone at WINE to offer some assistance in getting this going.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for all the input chaps this is way over my head though but it kinda compounds the fact that it aint gonna happen

                    thanks all jim
                    Cheers all Jim
                    Beam e4 I LOVE IT
                    Trex 450 Airwolf in progress
                    walkera 4g3(complete pants
                    Blade MSR Quality
                    speccy dx6i
                    PROUD OWNER OF 1 EGS
                    If it flys fly it if it doesnt fly drink it

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                    • #11
                      Hi everyone, I'm also on Ubuntu on my laptop and would like to use phoenix by using wine. Are there any progress?

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