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  • Phoenix setup tips please anyone...

    Got a Phoenix for Xmas but to be frank, it's a nightmare to fly the T-Rex450. Twitchy or what?

    I can fly a Buzzfly round the lounge without too much problems, but the sim! What a nightmare.

    Are there any settings I should be considering, rates, travel and so on. The 'Edit' option on the model looks a nightmare as well

    Cheers
    Nigel
    Nigel

    ... a pointless and pathetic tag line added to my posts to make my miserable life appear more interesting.

  • #2
    Firstly make sure you have your tx set to a new model and the swash mix set to 1servo90 or aero mode.
    Next run through the calibration.
    Choose a model and then if it is too lively dial in some expo from the model edit properties.
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    • #3
      The 450 is a twitchy so and so on Phoenix. Much more so than some of the other models. Try flying a Trex 600 or 700 and you'll see what I mean.
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      • #4
        Apart from the little blade i find all the helli's have got a passion for destroying themselves, they twitch, i panic, they crash eeeek

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        • #5
          welcome to the world of heli flying mickyP get stuck in mate it is hard to start with i know i too am a relative noobe but it will come together with pateince good luck and keep us posted on your progress

          cheers Jim
          Cheers all Jim
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          Trex 450 Airwolf in progress
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          • #6
            Originally posted by beerdeor View Post
            welcome to the world of heli flying mickyP get stuck in mate it is hard to start with i know i too am a relative noobe but it will come together with pateince good luck and keep us posted on your progress

            cheers Jim
            Thanks for that lol, i will keep at it, jumping in at the deep end i have a raptor 30 v2 which i bought from a guy that built it and flew it three times, he was frightened of crashing it so he sold it.

            Trust me it will stay on terra firma until i have mastered the sim, with the powerful helli's they seem to take of way out of trim and end up it bits before i have the chance to do anything, the small ones bless em are little angels.

            Thanks again for the welcome

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EnVeeTee View Post
              Got a Phoenix for Xmas but to be frank, it's a nightmare to fly the T-Rex450. Twitchy or what?

              I can fly a Buzzfly round the lounge without too much problems, but the sim! What a nightmare.

              Are there any settings I should be considering, rates, travel and so on. The 'Edit' option on the model looks a nightmare as well

              Cheers
              Nigel
              switch HH on for each of the helicoptors you want to try its not on by default, you'll find it in the model settings.

              I only got phoenix yesterday and it started getting easier when I numbed the sticks with +20% expo on my TX (dx6i)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by est1976 View Post
                switch HH on for each of the helicoptors you want to try its not on by default, you'll find it in the model settings.

                I only got phoenix yesterday and it started getting easier when I numbed the sticks with +20% expo on my TX (dx6i)
                Funny i got phoenix for christmas flew nice by my standards updated it to version 2 then it was real twitchy so i had dail in 20% expo now all is good again
                Didnt realise you turn HH on ill have to have a little looky at that later on

                Jim
                Cheers all Jim
                Beam e4 I LOVE IT
                Trex 450 Airwolf in progress
                walkera 4g3(complete pants
                Blade MSR Quality
                speccy dx6i
                PROUD OWNER OF 1 EGS
                If it flys fly it if it doesnt fly drink it

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                • #9
                  what is HH?


                  Happy New Year everyone



                  oh and Expo?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mickyp View Post
                    what is HH?
                    and Expo?
                    HH is Heading Hold - it is a more complex gyro that recognises which direction the heli is heading in and keeps it pointing in that direction. The benefit of HH is that it removes any tendency for the heli to weathercock (ie act like a weathervane and point its nose into the wind)

                    Expo is Exponential - it is a non-linear response of the heli to stick movement. If you dial in expo it will need a larger movement of the stick around its centre point to have an effect on the model, so will "dumb down" the heli around centre stick position, and make hovering easier.
                    Phil OB3
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                    • #11
                      Micky happy new year to you too

                      HH is head holding gyro

                      expo is a setting in the tx that numbs down the your inputs around the centre stick

                      what tx you using

                      Jim
                      Cheers all Jim
                      Beam e4 I LOVE IT
                      Trex 450 Airwolf in progress
                      walkera 4g3(complete pants
                      Blade MSR Quality
                      speccy dx6i
                      PROUD OWNER OF 1 EGS
                      If it flys fly it if it doesnt fly drink it

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                      • #12
                        My daughters have bought me two lessons for fathers day so hopefully i will be gingerly lifting off next Saturday week fingers crossed please peeps

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                        • #13
                          in the older phoenix version, the 450 had expo settings that made it more sensitive around mid-stick.
                          I was more happy with it after changing all expo parameters under "edit model" to zero.
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                          • #14
                            I have got a Toshiba Tecron which crashes (blue sreen error) every time i try and run Pheonix, it works on a sony laptop fine, has anyone else had this problem?

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                            • #15
                              I got in touch with Phoenix support team who suggested downloading the latest Beta version, i did that and it now works on the Toshiba......Thanks Team

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