Phoenix & DX6i

[Moose_Man]

Been told I've got to stop agitating the dog with my Xmas MCX, so I've installed & fired up pressie part 2 (Phoenix), created & selected a 2nd model space on the DX6i and ran through the initial config on Phoenix. I'm able to get started but seem to have very poor lift on most of the sim. model helis. (max ceiling on full throttle of about 3 ft I guess) and on some (e.g. Blade 400 Standard) I can't get off the ground (heli gets light and will just about turn on rudder, but won't leave tera firma).

Be grateful for any suggestions on what part of the setup I've got wrong.
[DX6i set to heli,
other than that defaults incl. SWASH TYPE: 1SERVO90, SWASH MIX: inhibit
not touched REVERSE or anything else]

Richard

[Boggy]

have you run through a full calibration richard?

[machasm]

Apart from setting the swash mix to 1servo90 or aero mode the only other thing you should be doing is calibrating the TX in Phoenix.
It should then be good to go.
You beat me to it Ron.

[Moose_Man]

Yes, I've gone through the callibration. I did start with the throttle stick centred rather than in the full down position, is that right.

[Moose_Man]

Have just recalibrated and no change. I'm getting the 2 bars moving on the throttle controll (as 1 moves up, 6 moves down and vice versa) and bar 4 moving for rudder, 3 moving for pitch (forward / backwards) and 2 moving for "tip" (right / left slide: sorry about using such advanced technical terms) The only switch that is sensed is the mix (0) / th hold (1), all the others don't show any indication within calibration.

Richard

[Dedcalm]

Channel 1 is throttle and Channel 6 is Collective Pitch so its ok for both to move at the same time - sounds wierd that they are moving in oposite senses though - as throttle increases so should pitch.

If configured correctly all used channels should move the full extent of the indicator bars

Rob

[machasm]

Channels 1 and 6 should be moving in the same direction.
Didn't know you had to do this but you could try reversing channel 6.

[Moose_Man]

Am getting somewhere now. I restarted the calibration with the throttle stick in the fully down position rather than central. Now when I select the Blade 400 Standard model it leaps into the air ... unless the throttle stick is at or above central position. Once I've got the heli airbourne (now no feeble max ceiling) moving the throttle stick above central position drops the heli (like a stone if I go fully up) and below central gives me lift (the lower the stick the greater the lift) and dead centre puts me in a hover. Am I right in thinking that I'm now getting positive & negative collective control, but they're reversed. I think that I remember Adrian adding a comment when I was buying the kit from his dad up at Hobby Hanger that one of the controls needed to be reversed when using the DX6i with the sim. Does this make sense and how to I go about reversing the throttle control ... on the DX6i settings or within the sim. software ?

Richard

[machasm]

Yep it sounds like the pitch control is reversed.
Also you need to satrt the calibration with the sticks centered as described in the setup/calibration procedure.
If you go into phoenix and find the 'edit control profile' for your transmitter you can invert channel 6 there.

[Boggy]

yep as ade says in phoenix edit is best. but if you have a seperate model memory set you could do it in the tx instead

[Moose_Man]

Thanks for all your help guys, I think that I'm just about there. The reverse channel 6 looks to have been a red herring. It looks to go the opposite to channel 1 when you're in the calibration screens, but if you go into edit control profile they look fine without changing anything, increase throttle & 1 & 6 increase together etc. Reversing the pitch in the model slot setting in the tx just added more confusion and definitely created an unwanted reversal.

Downloading & installing the updating to the latest version (2.0.q from 2.0.n) also seems to have made a difference, it may well have been the omission of the update from 2.0.n (software as on the CD in the box) was causing the lack of lift issues.

Hope to catch up with any of you who'll be at the DMHC Xmas fly tomorrow, I'll be there to gawp and admire on what could be ... with some time, effort & perseverance on my part.

Many Thanks
Richard

[Boggy]

see you there mate!!

[heliTV]

Thanks for all your help guys, I think that I'm just about there. The reverse channel 6 looks to have been a red herring. It looks to go the opposite to channel 1 when you're in the calibration screens, but if you go into edit control profile they look fine without changing anything, increase throttle & 1 & 6 increase together etc. Reversing the pitch in the model slot setting in the tx just added more confusion and definitely created an unwanted reversal.

Downloading & installing the updating to the latest version (2.0.q from 2.0.n) also seems to have made a difference, it may well have been the omission of the update from 2.0.n (software as on the CD in the box) was causing the lack of lift issues.

Hope to catch up with any of you who'll be at the DMHC Xmas fly tomorrow, I'll be there to gawp and admire on what could be ... with some time, effort & perseverance on my part.

Many Thanks
Richard

I think Phoenix made a boo boo with the DX6i on an earlier release - I had a setup stored that reversed everything except throttle. The standard DX6i config seems to work fine with 2.00q

See you all tomorrow... hope there's plenty of parking because it looks like its going to be busy!!!

All the best

Graham

[sacko]

Off topic slightly...

Does anyone have the best configuration for both Phoenix and the DX6i, mine flies, but needs setting up

Thanks

[Balders]

had probs with mine just before after updating to latest V2 offering. In the end, running calibration a second time (Dx6i) solved all my probs.

Sacko, I guess question depends on what you are flying and how, so if you are a learner, stay with the trainer models and avoid the gear/F-Mode switch on the top left shoulder of teh dx6i...more info required.