Can you get a Shuttle for Phoenix?

[Guest]

Hi,

Phoenix has been recommended by a number of people within this site (thanks).

Does anyone know if you can get a Shuttle in the sim ( or on Reflex)? if so where (how?)?

Regards,

Mike.

[Ade_Law]

phoenix only add current models. the number of shuttles flying these days is dropping off. nobody with any sense recomends them for learing on as without 200ukp of upgrades they are very sloppy and are something you grow out of rather than grow into like the current models.

the raptor 30 is probably as close as it gets in phoenix

Ade

[forbsy]

they recommend that in this months rotorworld magazine??

[xygax]

You dont want one...

Ade will use it like a cricket bat if he gets a chance....


It was the biggest hinderence to learning to fly i have ever encountered Get a Raptor..Knight..Rex.. But not a scuttle you really dont want one...

[trvo]

You dont want one...

Ade will use it like a cricket bat if he gets a chance....


It was the biggest hinderence to learning to fly i have ever encountered Get a Raptor..Knight..Rex.. But not a scuttle you really dont want one...

Agree, at best it'll teach you bad habits. It's a 10 million yr old design that was good in it's day but things have moved on...

Trev

[Ade_Law]

Ade will use it like a cricket bat if he gets a chance....

not even good enough for that :-)

Ade

[marktigere1]

Sorry but this thread is descending into the usual Shuttle bash.

It will teach you collective management and for sport flying when setup well will fly fine.

Not everyone has the time/money to fly 3D and this forum is supposed to embrace all comers isn't it?

Watch out anyone else who joins the forum with a Shuttle.

Usual have a go at a Shuttle night is it?

[steelie600]

ive hovered one upside down once but that was as close to 3d as it got cos i tried some tic tocs and broke the blade grips, then booted back to the pits. i was amazed that i got enough pitch tbh, could only get -5 and +7.5 and still broke the grips!!!


BUT THEY ARE STILL SHIT!!!!

[marktigere1]

I refer you to my previous post.

PS. NO NEED TO SHOUT!!

[Guest]

Shuttle Bashing

Hi all,

Well I hope you all don't take offence, none is meant. I have been away from flying RC/Helis for 15 years or so, when I flew my shuttle it was very good for it's day (perhaps not by todays standards), I still have the 'ol geezer' fresh from the cellar and was trying to catch up. I don't really want to abandone what was good in it's day (like the Jaguar XK 150 and the original Mini Cooper 's' they both were good), it's not really about who can fly acrobatics because of the whizzy electronics, it's about the machine and the ability of the pilot, if not, just fly a sim and never get a real model. Don't be so harsh, give the past it's credit, that's how we got in this mess!!

Regards,

Mike

[Ade_Law]

mark, its not about bashing the shuttle its about giving the new guys value for money...

just out of interest, how much have you spent on quick bits for your shuttle...

Ade

[marktigere1]

mark, its not about bashing the shuttle its about giving the new guys value for money...

just out of interest, how much have you spent on quick bits for your shuttle...

Ade

Absolutely none. Only a K&S tail servo mount.

It flew very well up until I binned it.

I would say though that the cost of repair was totally ridiculous, hence why I have moved on and I have to say that like you I would no longer recommend one due to the cost of repair.

However, this is simply a hobby to most people and if you want to go up to someone flying a Shuttle on a flyin and say their pride and joy is cr@p, then so be it. (Not saying you would Ade)

I treat others as I hope they treat me

Cheers

Mark

[Ade_Law]

trouble is they fly so differently to the better models that its a bit like flying a cx2 but 5 times the cost.

they fly so differently that they get to the end of their usefulness without gaining bad habbits around the time you learn to hover. just like the CX2 it has its limits to its usefullness for learning very early on.

im sorry but ime they do fly like poo without the quickuk bits and as you say costa del fortune to crash.

Ade

[trillian]

trouble is they fly so differently to the better models that its a bit like flying a cx2 but 5 times the cost.

they fly so differently that they get to the end of their usefulness without gaining bad habbits around the time you learn to hover. just like the CX2 it has its limits to its usefullness for learning very early on.

It's interesting to hear negative comments about the shuttle because on some other forums I have seen people reminescing fondly about the shuttle and have not heard anything bad about them.

In what way do they fly so differently? (I ask this strictly out of curiousity as I have no bias one way or the other)

[Guest]

Better Pilots! Maybe!

Well I don't know how they fly different, I'm only just back out of the wildereness, however I do remember BEFORE GYROS the people who flew Helicopters had to be very good indeed to control it all, then along came the gyro and made life a lot easier, now we have these 'Super HH Gyros' and digital controls etc, etc. Perhaps (and I know part of this is right) the old Shuttle was very good in it's day, now with all the new aids perhaps it's just too much of a handful for those who only know how to fly the electroniclly easier models of today. Yes I know the aerobatics that are flown today could not even be dreamed of 20 years ago, but then that's progress (or is it?).

Someone mentioned earlier about how much it would cost to buy the add ons needed to make it fly better, well perhaps to fly it as it was manufactured is more skillfull and satifying? I wonder if the new super Helis of today would even be flyable at all without the wizzy aids created by the electronic space age developments?

Perhaps someone with a greater knowledge than I could enlighten us?

Regards,

Mike.